[Chapter-delegates] 2014 Internet Society Board of TrusteesElections
Houle Louis
Louis.Houle at isocquebec.org
Mon Apr 7 15:50:38 PDT 2014
Alejandro was pushing a little more under the projectors the real work
that Chapters are achieving. If Chapters are the heart, they are also
the acting arm in their own community, in many regards. And that
includes individuals, enterprises, and governments, civil society,
non-profit, vulnerable communities, impaired, retired, youth, security
threats, Personal Information Protection (PIP), access, affordability,
innovation...and I would like to add, Chapters efforts to simplify,
explain and translate into a comprehensable wording the Internet for
everyone, the mulistakehoderism and any of the 3244 acronyms (;-) ) in
use in our daily emails.
Louis Houle
Président
Société Internet du Québec - ISOC Québec
Louis.Houle at isocquebec.org
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Le 2014-03-30 20:59, Eric Burger a écrit :
> I always seem to leave something out. Alejandro is totally correct
> that Chapters do a lot of outreach to users. More especially, we all
> recognize that 'users' include individuals, enterprises, and governments.
>
>
> On Mar 29, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Alejandro Pisanty <apisanty at gmail.com
> <mailto:apisanty at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I beg to differ... Eric's view:
>>
>> 1. seems to reflect a purely infrastructural view of the Internet.
>> I'm pretty sure that people in many chapters will consider themselves
>> not only as simple users Well beyond updating their Facebook walls
>> with cute pictures, Chapter members create e-commerce and
>> e-government portals, train and teach people and organizations,
>> organize, campaign and lobby for Internet principles at risk, develop
>> original connectivity and software solutions, build and deply gear,
>> networks and services, and, what do you know, ocassionally find
>> themselves participating in the IETF.
>>
>> 2. seems to reflect a silo structure of the stakeholders and members
>> of ISOC, which extrapolates the necessary grouping of people and
>> organizations for internal organizational purposes into an
>> existential divide. No surprise that we find ISOC bureaucray
>> accepting and even promoting this silo view of stakeholders in
>> Internet governance discussions and activities; and little wonder
>> they don't know what it is that hurt them when this view bites back.
>>
>> The richness of the Internet Society does not lie in how it glues
>> together three separate tiles. It lies in how effectively it glues
>> together a rich tapestry of multfunctional, committed streams. Or was
>> that way until recently. Has Sigmund spent one night awake too many?
>>
>> Yours,
>>
>> Alejandro PIsanty
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Dave Farber <dave at farber.net
>> <mailto:dave at farber.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Well said.
>>
>> On Mar 29, 2014 2:16 PM, "Eric Burger"
>> <eburger at standardstrack.com <mailto:eburger at standardstrack.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> There are three legs to the ISOC three-legged stool:
>>
>> 1. Chapters: the people who USE the Internet
>> 2. Organizations: the people who BUILD and RUN the Internet
>> 3. IETF: the people who INVENT, REFINE, and ensure an
>> INTEROPERABLE Internet
>>
>>
>> *No* leg is more important than the other:
>>
>> * Chapters represent individual people's interests, not
>> driven (necessarily) by a profit or governmental motive.
>> * Organizations represent the most people from more
>> geographic regions than any Internet Society community.
>> * The IETF represents the best in working out the best
>> technical solution, irrespective of one's company,
>> national, or ethnic origin.
>>
>> Likewise:
>>
>> * Without Organizations, we would not have the insights of
>> how things /really/ work.
>> * Without Chapters, we would have no heart.
>> * Without the IETF, there would not be an Internet for
>> there to be an Internet Society.
>>
>> This is also why, as Jason pointed out, once each Internet
>> Society community selects Trustee(s), those Trustee do not
>> represent that community. Those Trustees work for the best
>> result for the Internet. Not Chapters. Not Organizations. Not
>> the IETF. Not even the Internet Society as a corporation.
>> Just the best for the open, free, accessible, and
>> interoperable Internet.
>>
>>
>> On Mar 29, 2014, at 12:41 AM, Gihan Dias <gihan at uom.lk
>> <mailto:gihan at uom.lk>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2014/03/29 ??.?. 9:14, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Any candidate can promise to throw money at a solution and
>>>> hope it will fix itself. (Whether, once on the Board, such
>>>> a position has a realistic ability to succeed, is
>>>> reasonable to ask. )
>>>>
>>> Evan,
>>>
>>> So I will refrain from making unrealistic promises.
>>>>
>>>> But the challenge is more than just money, it is one of
>>>> changing culture. IMO, those who are elected have a
>>>> responsibility to ensure at the Board level that chapters
>>>> are a built-in characteristic of ISOC, indeed *the*
>>>> defining characteristic, not one that appears added on as
>>>> an afterthought.
>>>>
>>> Yes. Chapters came later in the society's evolution.
>>> However, now they are (or should be) one of the two legs of
>>> the society, of equal status with organisational members. I
>>> believe that the best way to do this to strengthen chapters by
>>> 1. Making chapters be active, visible and effective at a
>>> national level, and to have chapters identify and drive
>>> national issues
>>> 2. Have effective input from each chapter, through regional
>>> bureaus, to the Society. This will include - but not be
>>> limited to - the Chapter Advisory Council.
>>> 3. Make chapters financially strong by supporting
>>> fund-raising at chapter level.
>>> 4. Support each chapter to have at least a part time paid
>>> staff member. - otherwise volunteer officers will find it
>>> difficult to get any work done
>>> 5. Encourage and support collaboration among chapters.
>>>
>>> I would also like to get your views on other ways of
>>> strengthening chapters.
>>>>
>>>> Such cultural evolution requires far more than financial
>>>> consideration to ensure chapter sustainability (though that
>>>> component is certainly part of it). I want to hear from
>>>> each candidate a vision that indicates both an
>>>> understanding of this challenge and the political
>>>> capability to confront it.
>>>>
>>> Each chapter is unique, and will have its own challenges.
>>> ISoc should be flexible enough to work with each chapter on
>>> its own terms, while at the same time avoiding favoritism.
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> Gihan
>>> ISoc Sri Lanka
>>> BoT Candidate
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