[Chapter-delegates] Fight Against E-Mail Spam! < which looks MORE like spam

[Eduard Tric]

Hi all,
If this is true , it raises at least three questions :
 - why obfuscated urls ?
 - what are the criterias (ethical , IPR  , project merit , etc) for using local chapter members database for global advertising (even if it's for a very good cause ) ?
 - are other project eligibile for global mailing ?
    just an example , my favorite , time consuming,  Isoc - community grant funded Electronic diplomas project , could benefit as well  from such a campaign : http://www.eduid.eu/en/ . And i am sure there are dozens of  projects in the same situation

We struggle at local level to get funding for local projects, badly needed (dnssec for .ro . education , etc ) , and we need to explain to our members why they are solicited the other way around (to fund a global project ).
The expectations of our chapter members are high in term of recieving funding (for projects, next generation leaders  , etc ) . 
Eventually , why not  raise money this way , if it is well prepared and explained (and the chapter leaders informed before the campaign ), but in this case, let's establish together some criterias . Seen from this part of the ocean,  we  need   encryption for the masses rather then fight against spam as a priority :)

 
Regards,
Ed

----- Mesaj original -----
De la: "Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch" <apisan at unam.mx>
Către: "Peter Koch" <pk at ISOC.DE>, chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
Trimis: joi, 12 septembrie, 2013 16:19:24
Subiect: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Fight Against E-Mail Spam! < which	looks	MORE like spam

Hi all,

I have email from ISOC staff stating that yes, they did start this campaign.

I have asked them to come on to this list and see the wreck for themselves.

Yours,

Alejandro Pisanty


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Desde: chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org [chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] en nombre de Peter Koch [pk at ISOC.DE]
Enviado el: jueves, 12 de septiembre de 2013 01:07
Hasta: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
Asunto: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Fight Against E-Mail Spam! < which looks        MORE like spam

On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:34:37PM -0300, Carlos A. Afonso wrote:
> Not at all... Just take a look at the source code of the original
> message -- nothing to do with ISOC, it is a phishing trap. Otherwise,

never attribute to malice what can be simply ...

ISOC is showing all signs of an organisation that has been growing too
far too fast, including lack of institutional memory and a deeper
understanding of net culture and technology. I'd suggest that the
bright minds inside the organisation (and there are lots, still, really)
get their feet back on the ground.

Hiding an anti spam campaign behind a link like

hXXp://us7.campaign-archive1.com/?u=2b178aff20babee9328e5c659&id=48ac092fb1&e=034461a2a1

really has so much irony w.r.t. framing user expectations and behaviour
as well as privacy considerations that it needs no words. I've heard on a
different occasion recently that "Mailchimp" is now the tool of choice.
I'd surmise that just the organisation has changed and those of us complaining
about such details don't understand today's internet according to ISOC
and maybe better leave the bus, next stop.

-Peter
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