[Chapter-delegates] Alejandro's question and where does ISOC stand on meaning of Montevideo?

[anupam agrawal]

Dave,

I am surprised by the authority you suggest that ISOC agrees to a lightly exercised US legal authority (what's the evidence) and your confusion is that the Montevideo statement and the other actions seems to suggest otherwise. This is very serious as you have made Lynn, Markus, Alejandro, Vint, Theresa party to this. It appears to me that you know much more than you have divulged in this email and giving clarion call to others to come out.  What is that are you expecting?

You referenced being on ITAC (which one?). And how ITAC interest in Internet governance is justified.

Regards
Anupam Agrawal
Chair
Internet Society India Kolkata Chapter


> On 27-Oct-2013, at 11:51 am, "Dave Burstein" <daveb at dslprime.com> wrote:
> 
> Lynn, Markus
> 
> I join Alejandro wondering what does it mean that ISOC signed the Montevideo statement and what are we really proposing. 
> 
>    If you read Montevideo and listen to Fadi on how the net can't be under the control of any single country, it's a Declaration of Independence. http://fastnetnews.com/dslprime/42-d/4997-first-look-declarations-of-independence-of-the-net-
> 
> In other contexts, ISOC has strongly supported the status quo of (lightly exercised) U.S. legal sovereignty , so I doubt Lynn signed it in that spirit. Additionally, Danny S. and State seem to read it very differently than I do; diplomats and clear language don't mix. 
> 
>    I can't imagine a more important time for ISOC decisionmakers to be transparent both to the board and the membership what the heck is really going on. Alejandro, Vint and Theresa are deeply imbedded inside this process. I'm actually on the U.S. State Department ITAC and it's clear they don't understand what Danny is doing either. 
> 
>    Please get solid information out both in Buenos Aires and directly here to the members. 
> 
>    ISOC Board members: I hope you join in deeply and share what you know. 
> 
>    Lots in play, so let's use this to show that ISOC itself understands and implements multistakeholder and bottom up organization.
> 
> Dave Burstein
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> I think that for the rest of this year, at least, there is one overarching issue which is understanding ICANN's strategy with actions like the Brazil meeting; understanding ISOC's HQ stance (this question goes back into the past, to before the Montevideo Statement); to have chapters and members heard about these issues; and last, a no-surprises agreement.
>> 
>> This no-surprises agreement was first intended to occur mostly among chapters when we started these meetings. Now after Montevideo and the plans for the Brazil Internet Governance Summit we need a clear outline of where ISOC HQ is intending to go, and whatever exchanges that starts.
>> 
>> I hope you, Markus and Lynn, and whoever is involved, can work out an imaginative scheme that allows the meeting to be very efficient in the initial setup and go straight to the matter. You may need to bottomupize the planning as well.
>> 
>> Yours,
>> 
>> Alejandro Pisanty
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