[Chapter-delegates] Fwd: Renewal Internet Society Chapter Charter

Mon Nov 18 01:33:13 PST 2013

Ted

I've interviewed a few who were involved and I do not believe the result
can be described as a consensus, not even a rough let alone a grand
consensus. It started well but dwindled to hardly any support at all.
But actually all that is not even relevant to what we need to get straight.

This debate incidentally is not about "minimum" performance standards
for chapters nor is it about funding. It is about the direction of
travel of ISOC in relation to our shared global and local
responsibilities and activities.

The more this issue is dismissed as something to do with "chapter
performance" rather than the bigger picture the more the
misunderstandings will drive the agenda and progress will continue to
stall.  I repeat my earlier call to Bob for Trustees to engage directly
and for ISOC to allow chapters the time and space we need to peer via
the Advisory Council and to do as the new bylaws empowers which is to
advise.

best regards

Christian
> Ted Mooney <mailto:mooney at isoc.org>
> 17 November 2013 20:35
> Veni, the minimum performance standards are referenced in the by laws
> but as they are subject to operational updates and changes were not
> codified within the by-laws one by one. They were developed prior to
> my arrival at ISOC by a seven member panel consisting of five chapter
> leaders and two ISOC staff (Anne Lord was one of them). These were
> then circulated for additional comment and review before appearing in
> the letter of affiliation.
>
> While I was not personally involved at all in their development, I
> support the MPS and believe they are truly that, minimal. Since they
> were developed by chapter leaders and presented to chapters for review
> and comment, it seems to me that operationally, a good process was
> followed. 
>
> Happy to discuss further going forward 
>
> Ted
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Nov 16, 2013, at 12:17 PM, "Veni Markovski" <veni at veni.com
> <mailto:veni at veni.com>> wrote:
>
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> Elver Loho <mailto:elver.loho at gmail.com>
> 13 October 2013 11:49
> Hi all,
>
> We received the same letter at the Estonian chapter and I quickly
> filed it under "things to get angry about later", because I had work
> to do.
>
> My reaction may have been colored by the fact that during the last
> recent stink on this list, I sent a letter to Frederic on October 1st
> proposing a very concrete plan to start a pan-European policy
> cooperation working group to strenghten ISOC's presence in Europe and
> to get European chapters involved in actual policy work. And thus far
> he has failed to reply.
>
> We really need to come back to the core questions, otherwise we'll
> never get these things sorted out.
>
> 1. What is the role of chapters in ISOC?
> 2. What is the single most important thing that ISOC expects chapters
> to do on a day-to-day basis?
> 3. How does ISOC expect chapters to finance this activity?
>
> I may be a bit cynical here, but it seems to me that the role of
> chapters is to show that ISOC has widespread support around the globe,
> so as to get funding from PIR. And that ISOC does not expect chapters
> to do anything, except get more members. And that chapters should
> operate on an entirely voluntary basis, acquiring new disciples, new
> names on a list.
>
> Personally, when we joined ISOC, I was expecting at least some sort of
> policy coordination and joint lobbying effort. I was expecting that
> chapters would get access to experts in international law, so that we
> could lobby better and ask questions about upcoming treaties. I was
> expecting that we would get access to a whole knowledge base and a
> network of people to help us coordinate global policy. I was expecting
> to get involved. To participate.
>
> Thus far I've been disappointed beyond belief.
>
> Best,
> Elver
> .ee
>
>
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>
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> Veni Markovski <mailto:veni at veni.com>
> 13 October 2013 10:44
> Hi, guys.
> I guess you have received similar letters?
>
> I already emailed Joyce that there are some issues with the
> requirements, mainly in the responsibility of the chapters ;-)
> Seems like ISOC is not concerned too much about the EU personal data
> protection, or the fact that may be in some chapters you cannot be a
> member of the global ISOC, or that in some cases the elections of the
> Board may not take place every year, or every two years; or that the
> number of terms may not be limited; or that filing updates with ISOC
> may mean extra weight on the chapters to produce the documents from
> the General Assembly in English; or that sharing information with the
> ISOC staff may not be appropriate; or that promoting ISOC strategic
> positions could be considered very inappropriate (what? considering
> the position of a US-based non-profit???).
>
> Further than that, they are telling us that if do not meet "one or
> more" of the "minimum standards", a process of "rejuvenation" will be
> initiated.
>
> Somehow I miss all these in the ISOC by-laws, but may be someone can
> enlightern us?
>
> thanks, and have a great Sunday!
>
> v.
>
>  
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: 	Renewal Internet Society Chapter Charter
> Date: 	Fri, 11 Oct 2013 14:42:56 +0000
> From: 	Joyce Dogniez <dogniez at isoc.org>
> To: 	albena.arnaudova at gmail.com <albena.arnaudova at gmail.com>,
> mitko at mitko.com <mitko at mitko.com>, dgreve at isoc.bg <dgreve at isoc.bg>,
> veni at veni.com <veni at veni.com>, julia at isoc.bg <julia at isoc.bg>
>
>
>
> Dear Chapter Chair, 
>
> Dear Chapter Officers,
>
>
> As previously announced and in accordance with article IV of the
> updated Bylaws of the Internet Society on 22 July 2013, I am pleased
> to send you the updated Chapter Charter letter for your Chapter,
> including the chapter minimum standards as well as the outline of the
> support to be expected from the Internet Society.  
>
> This letter reconfirms that the Chapter is chartered and approved as a
> Chapter of the Internet Society.
>
>
> These mutual standards were developed in collaboration and
> consultation with the Chapters over the past couple of years prior to
> the Internet Society Board of Trustees review.  Their implementation
> was placed on hold until passage of the updated By-laws so that we
> could be certain that they were conform with the amended and restated
> By-laws. The performance standards herein reflect both the letter and
> the spirit of the updated By-laws.
>
>
> I would kindly ask you to sign the Renewal Chapter Charter letter and
> return it to chapter-support at isoc.org
> <mailto:chapter-support at isoc.org> before the 15th of December 2013.
>
>
> Additionally, in accordance with Article VIII, Organisational Members
> and Chapters shall each have the right to form an Advisory body for
> the purpose of providing information and advice to the Board of
> Trustees and the President of the Internet Society on matters of
> strategic importance to that community. 
>
> As kindly requested by a number of Chapter Officers you will receive
> an invitation next week to join an initial working group that will
> look at the creation and governance of the Chapter Advisory body.
>
>
> Should you wish to review the full revised By-laws
> : http://www.internetsociety.org/who-we-are/governance-and-policies/amended-and-restated-laws-internet-society 
>
>  
>
> Please do not hesitate to contact me or any member of the Chapter
> Development Team for any further information. 
>
> Naveed Haq (Chapter Development Manager Asia-Pacific) and myself will
> be at the IGF in Bali as well, and have set up a calendar
> at http://doodle.com/6iwta8yep3kkrrpf should you wish to meet there.  
>
>
> I'd like to thank you for your continuous support and passion to
> advance the Internet Society's mission in your region.
>
>
> Kind regards
>
> Joyce
>
>
> -- 
> Joyce Dogniez, CMM
> Director of Chapters
> Internet Society
>
> dogniez at isoc.org <mailto:dogniez at isoc.org>
> tel: +352 621 266 189
> Skype: joycedogniez
>
>
> -- 
>
> Best,
> Veni Markovski
> http://www.veni.com
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>
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