[Chapter-delegates] Fwd: Renewal Internet Society Chapter Charter
Veni Markovski
veni at veni.com
Sat Nov 16 07:17:21 PST 2013
Ted, Joyce, would you, please, point me to the adequate Board
resolution, agreeing the text that you sent to the chapters? I tried to
find it, but was not successful.
I have also written in my original email (see below Elver's comments)
that I would like to hear more on some of the items and requirements, as
they are not seen in the by-laws, and I don't believe we have received
an answer who created them, were they approved by the Board, and if so,
why are they not in the by-laws.
best,
veni
On 10/13/13 06:49, Elver Loho wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> We received the same letter at the Estonian chapter and I quickly
> filed it under "things to get angry about later", because I had work
> to do.
>
> My reaction may have been colored by the fact that during the last
> recent stink on this list, I sent a letter to Frederic on October 1st
> proposing a very concrete plan to start a pan-European policy
> cooperation working group to strenghten ISOC's presence in Europe and
> to get European chapters involved in actual policy work. And thus far
> he has failed to reply.
>
> We really need to come back to the core questions, otherwise we'll
> never get these things sorted out.
>
> 1. What is the role of chapters in ISOC?
> 2. What is the single most important thing that ISOC expects chapters
> to do on a day-to-day basis?
> 3. How does ISOC expect chapters to finance this activity?
>
> I may be a bit cynical here, but it seems to me that the role of
> chapters is to show that ISOC has widespread support around the globe,
> so as to get funding from PIR. And that ISOC does not expect chapters
> to do anything, except get more members. And that chapters should
> operate on an entirely voluntary basis, acquiring new disciples, new
> names on a list.
>
> Personally, when we joined ISOC, I was expecting at least some sort of
> policy coordination and joint lobbying effort. I was expecting that
> chapters would get access to experts in international law, so that we
> could lobby better and ask questions about upcoming treaties. I was
> expecting that we would get access to a whole knowledge base and a
> network of people to help us coordinate global policy. I was expecting
> to get involved. To participate.
>
> Thus far I've been disappointed beyond belief.
>
> Best,
> Elver
> .ee
>
>
> elver.loho at gmail.com <mailto:elver.loho at gmail.com>
> +372 5661 6933
> skype: elver.loho
>
>
> On 13 October 2013 12:44, Veni Markovski <veni at veni.com
> <mailto:veni at veni.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi, guys.
> I guess you have received similar letters?
>
> I already emailed Joyce that there are some issues with the
> requirements, mainly in the responsibility of the chapters ;-)
> Seems like ISOC is not concerned too much about the EU personal
> data protection, or the fact that may be in some chapters you
> cannot be a member of the global ISOC, or that in some cases the
> elections of the Board may not take place every year, or every two
> years; or that the number of terms may not be limited; or that
> filing updates with ISOC may mean extra weight on the chapters to
> produce the documents from the General Assembly in English; or
> that sharing information with the ISOC staff may not be
> appropriate; or that promoting ISOC strategic positions could be
> considered very inappropriate (what? considering the position of a
> US-based non-profit???).
>
> Further than that, they are telling us that if do not meet "one or
> more" of the "minimum standards", a process of "rejuvenation" will
> be initiated.
>
> Somehow I miss all these in the ISOC by-laws, but may be someone
> can enlightern us?
>
> thanks, and have a great Sunday!
>
> v.
>
>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Renewal Internet Society Chapter Charter
> Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 14:42:56 +0000
> From: Joyce Dogniez <dogniez at isoc.org> <mailto:dogniez at isoc.org>
> To: albena.arnaudova at gmail.com
> <mailto:albena.arnaudova at gmail.com> <albena.arnaudova at gmail.com>
> <mailto:albena.arnaudova at gmail.com>, mitko at mitko.com
> <mailto:mitko at mitko.com> <mitko at mitko.com>
> <mailto:mitko at mitko.com>, dgreve at isoc.bg <mailto:dgreve at isoc.bg>
> <dgreve at isoc.bg> <mailto:dgreve at isoc.bg>, veni at veni.com
> <mailto:veni at veni.com> <veni at veni.com> <mailto:veni at veni.com>,
> julia at isoc.bg <mailto:julia at isoc.bg> <julia at isoc.bg>
> <mailto:julia at isoc.bg>
>
>
>
> Dear Chapter Chair,
>
> Dear Chapter Officers,
>
>
> As previously announced and in accordance with article IV of the
> updated Bylaws of the Internet Society on 22 July 2013, I am
> pleased to send you the updated Chapter Charter letter for your
> Chapter, including the chapter minimum standards as well as the
> outline of the support to be expected from the Internet Society.
>
> This letter reconfirms that the Chapter is chartered and approved
> as a Chapter of the Internet Society.
>
>
> These mutual standards were developed in collaboration and
> consultation with the Chapters over the past couple of years prior
> to the Internet Society Board of Trustees review. Their
> implementation was placed on hold until passage of the updated
> By-laws so that we could be certain that they were conform with
> the amended and restated By-laws. The performance standards herein
> reflect both the letter and the spirit of the updated By-laws.
>
>
> I would kindly ask you to sign the Renewal Chapter Charter letter
> and return it to chapter-support at isoc.org
> <mailto:chapter-support at isoc.org> before the 15th of December 2013.
>
>
> Additionally, in accordance with Article VIII,
> Organisational Members and Chapters shall each have the right to
> form an Advisory body for the purpose of providing information and
> advice to the Board of Trustees and the President of the Internet
> Society on matters of strategic importance to that community.
>
> As kindly requested by a number of Chapter Officers you
> will receive an invitation next week to join an initial working
> group that will look at the creation and governance of the Chapter
> Advisory body.
>
>
> Should you wish to review the full revised By-laws :
> http://www.internetsociety.org/who-we-are/governance-and-policies/amended-and-restated-laws-internet-society
>
>
> Please do not hesitate to contact me or any member of the Chapter
> Development Team for any further information.
>
> Naveed Haq (Chapter Development Manager Asia-Pacific) and myself
> will be at the IGF in Bali as well, and have set up a calendar at
> http://doodle.com/6iwta8yep3kkrrpf should you wish to meet there.
>
>
> I'd like to thank you for your continuous support and passion to
> advance the Internet Society's mission in your region.
>
>
> Kind regards
>
> Joyce
>
>
> --
> Joyce Dogniez, CMM
> Director of Chapters
> Internet Society
>
> dogniez at isoc.org <mailto:dogniez at isoc.org>
> tel: +352 621 266 189 <tel:%2B352%20621%20266%20189>
> Skype: joycedogniez
>
>
> --
>
> Best,
> Veni Markovski
> http://www.veni.com
> https://www.facebook.com/venimarkovski
> https://twitter.com/veni
>
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