[Chapter-delegates] Trustees! not staff! Re: Announcement about the dissolution of ISOC-KH
borka at e5.ijs.si
borka at e5.ijs.si
Tue Nov 5 22:35:56 PST 2013
+1, fully agree regarding staff and the rest of the mail..
Borka
On Tue, 5 Nov 2013, Veni Markovski wrote:
> You are right. The staffers are good people. I'd say - amazingly good
> people.
>
> What has happened (and none of us is a part of it, so we don't know all
> details) is a sad page in the ISOC history. The HQ has to look with more
> patience and attention in cross-cultural issues. I am sure the relevant
> staff would know what's going on, and hopefully someone at the BoT would ask
> the right questions, and find out.
>
> v.
>
>
>
>
> On 11/05/13 13:43, info at isoc.org.ec wrote:
> Sorry my email was incomplete. Here the complete version
>
> Maybe the problem is not staff by guidelines and policies they
> follow.
>
> Sometimes we look for actions where there is no option to act,
>
> So we must work on policies, resources and responsibilities and the
> ask staff to follow
>
> Staff are employees they do their work. Am I right?
>
> Carlos Vera
>
> Internet Society Ecuador
> www.isoc.org.ec
> Síguenos @isocec
>
> El 05/11/2013, a las 12:57, Ted Mooney <mooney at isoc.org> escribió:
>
> I think it is important to say here that all of
> Membership & Services staff are quite saddened by the
> decision of the ISOC Cambodia Chapter to dissociate from
> The Internet Society. I see there are many who take the
> view that Chapters are treated with indifference or worse
> by ISOC staff, yet others have found Staff to be not only
> helpful, but enthusiastic in their support for chapters
> and the opportunities to overcome obstacles together. Why
> is this?
>
> I'm aware of a number of such opportunities for the Cambodia
> Chapter and ISOC to look together at solutions. That none of
> these were satisfactory is very unfortunate. It may be that
> when a single solution is all that will be accommodated, it is
> difficult to arrive at a win-win.
>
> I am personally amazed at how much chapters are able to
> accomplish and how much good they do for the Internet as we all
> want it to progress. And the Internet Society is absolutely
> unique in its contributions to research, technical advocacy,
> policy development, coalition building and community support.
> Which must be why, despite the many voiced misgivings, you all
> remain members, leaders and team mates. Please do not stop now.
>
> Changes are coming as we all know. Some sooner rather than
> later. I've voiced my optimism for the work of the Chapter
> Administrative support Working Group as well as the Chapter
> Advisory Council all led by Chapter leaders and supported by
> ISOC Staff. It is also clear that there are constraints of
> framework, culture and infrastructure not only from region to
> region but from country to country that we acknowledge and seek
> to address head-on with flexible and multifaceted solutions.
>
> I agree there has been enough talk. Actions must follow - good
> faith action from each and everyone of us.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Ted Mooney
> Senior Director, Membership & Services
> The Internet Society
> 1775 Wiehle Avenue
> Reston, VA 20190 USA
> Office: +1 703-439-2774
> Cell: +1 301-980-6446
> eMail: mooney at isoc.org
>
> From: Talha Habib <tali2leo at gmail.com>
> Date: Tuesday, November 5, 2013 1:14 PM
> To: Glenn McKnight <contact at internetsociety.ca>
> Cc: ISOC Chapter Delegates <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Trustees! not staff! Re:
> Announcement about the dissolution of ISOC-KH
>
> +1 Glenn
>
> Thank you
> --
> Warm Regards,
> Talha Habib
>
> * Sent from Galaxy Note
>
> On Nov 5, 2013 8:53 PM, "Glenn McKnight"
> <contact at internetsociety.ca> wrote:
> Hi All It's interesting reading this forum how many
> of the writers are dissatisified with the staff
> performance and in particular with the Chapter
> MOU.
>
> Perhaps we need to do some metrics and have a survey
> completed by an independent group to everyone on the
> performance of ISOC from Top to Bottom.
>
> Some of the poison pen stuff and finger pointing isn't
> helpful and it's getting people's backs up. We should be
> working colloboratively and building a positive spirit but
> reading this delegate list it's a bit disconcerting.
>
> Glenn
>
> Glenn McKnight
> Membership Outeach
> ISOC Canada Chapter
> skype gmcknight
> "The Internet is for Everyone"
> [Drafts?number=325673&view=att&th=13d35e7c9f4238cb&attid=0.1&disp=thd&zw]
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 5:48 AM, Christian de Larrinaga
> <cdel at firsthand.net> wrote:
> Actually I think it is the Trustees who need
> to wake up and smell the
> coffee. We in part elect them. They are our
> representatives.
>
> I am not clear what Trustees want to achieve
> with a network of chapters
> as part of the new mission based ISOC
> organisation. I hope Trustees will
> set out some thoughts and ideas for what they
> want for chapters and set
> out a process including chapters directly to
> establish a plan how that
> can be optimally implemented.
>
> The recent letter we all received had more
> than an attitudinal tinge of
> "sign and shut up" about it which is not
> helpful if you genuinely want
> partners around the world defining and
> delivering your mission. It may
> be that the trustees want to act only through
> the staff and see chapters
> as a way to spread the footprint to elect some
> trustees and do some
> fringe activities convening local people. If
> that is the case then make
> that clear please.
>
> I genuinely need to know what the trustees
> want with chapters. I don't
> need the whole journey defined before
> Christmas but it would be helpful
> to get sight of the first steps at least and a
> vision for how "we" can
> define the journey, so by this time next year
> there is clarity.
>
> Christian
> > David Solomonoff
> <mailto:president at isoc-ny.org>
> > 5 November 2013 03:12
> > This is tragic - both for Cambodia's
> netizens (past, present and
> > future) and for ISOC.
> >
> > It will have long-term negative consequences
> for the global
> > organization in ways that are hard to
> anticipate. But first and
> > foremost will be the temptation for other
> Chapters to dissolve or
> > dissociate whenever there is disagreement.
> >
> > If other Chapters follow a similar path, the
> credibility - and even
> > the viability - of ISOC will be severely
> damaged.
> >
> > The ISOC staff who allowed this to happen
> have made a grievous error.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > David
> >
> > On 11/03/2013 09:26 PM, Chantra Be wrote:
> >
> >
> > --
> > David Solomonoff, President
> > Internet Society of New York
> > president at isoc-ny.org
> > isoc-ny.org
> >
> _______________________________________________
> > As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you
> are automatically subscribed
> > to this list, which is regularly
> synchronized with the Internet Society
> > Chapter Portal (AMS):
> https://portal.isoc.org
> > Chantra Be <mailto:chantra.be at gmail.com>
> > 4 November 2013 02:26
> >
> > *Dear All,*
> >
> > *On 26 October 2013, a meeting was held
> according to Article XII of
> > the Bylaws of the Cambodian Chapter of the
> Internet Society:*
> >
> > *Article XII. - Dissolution of the Chapter*
> >
> > 1. Dissolution of this Chapter by consent of
> the members shall consist
> > of unanimous agreement of all its officers
> together with a majority
> > vote at a meeting which has been publicized
> in advance to all members
> > of the Chapter for the purpose of taking
> this vote.
> >
> > *2. Should this Chapter be dissolved, its
> assets shall be transferred
> > to ISOC International Headquarters.*
> >
> >
> > The meeting had been called on 23 September
> 2013, stating:
> >
> >
> > “It is to propose – unless real and
> practical alternatives are
> > identified within the following month – to
> call a meeting of all
> > members of our Chapter for the purpose of
> taking a vote to dissolve
> > the ISOC Cambodia Chapter.”
> >
> >
> > *The meeting decided to dissolve the ISOC
> Cambodia Chapter; this
> > decision becomes effective after the present
> Announcement will have
> > been sent out:*
> >
> > * - to all members of the ISOC Cambodia
> Chapter
> > * - to the Chapter Delegates list of ISOC
> > * - to the Chairperson of the Board of
> ISOC
> > * - to the ISOC Senior Director,
> Membership & Services (You had
> > written: “If the Cambodian Chapter
> wishes to rescind its ISOC
> > chapter status, a letter so stating to
> the APAC Chapter
> > Development manager is sufficient” -
> would you please forward it
> > there – or also to other persons in ISOC
> beyond the APAC office
> > who might want to know.)
> >
> >
> > This decision was taken drawing together the
> conclusions of the
> > correspondence with ISOC staff and ISOC
> Chapter leaders: we appreciate
> > very much the many encouraging comments from
> other Chapters, and we
> > regret that the expected correspondence from
> ISOC staff – regional and
> > central – was late, or not forthcoming at
> all, and not proposing real
> > and practical steps ahead.
> >
> >
> > *The following is to be more specific:*
> >
> > In response to the “Interim Information:
> Serious considerations to
> > dissolve the Cambodia ISOC Chapter” which
> wehad sent to you and to
> > ISOC Chapter leaders and ISOC staff on 16
> Oct 2013, we received the
> > following response from Ted Mooney - ISOC
> Senior Director, Membership
> > & Services – on 18 October 2013, under the
> Subject line “Communication
> > and moving forward with the ISOC Cambodia
> Chapter.”
> >
> > I quote /the mail from Ted Mooney here in
> Italics/, to distinguish it
> > from comments from other Chapter leaders and
> from our own side.
> >
> > /Dear Chantra Be,
> >
> > I've followed with great interest the
> responses from Norbert Klein on
> > the Chapter Delegates e-list. I want you to
> know that I and many of us
> > at ISOC have thoroughly read your original
> email more than once and
> > the subsequent messages from Mr. Klein. I
> have researched the claims
> > made regarding the correspondences between
> ISOC Staff and the
> > Cambodian Chapter and the outreach attempts
> made on both sides. It is
> > evident that Staff has a different
> interpretation of the data than has
> > the Chapter. It is, in my opinion therefore,
> not constructive to dwell
> > on the past but to address the issues raised
> in your message, once again.
> > /
> > Ted Mooney refers again to outreach attempts
> supposedly made by ISOC
> > staff.
> >
> > This is not the first time such claims are
> made, and therefore we had
> > responded:
> >
> > - We do not know “what has been communicated
> to” the ISOC Senior
> > Director, Membership & Services in this
> respect – but the situation
> > continues: neither the Singapore based ISOC
> ASIA PACIFIC staff, nor
> > the ISOC Chapter Development Manager,
> Asia-Pacific, nor the ISOC
> > Senior Director, Membership & Services have
> responded to the detailed
> > content in the mail from our Secretary...
> > *- But if such mail was sent and we did not
> receive it for whatever
> > reason – it would be appropriate to share it
> here on the Chapters list.*
> >
> > * *
> > *
> > * *Instead of using this opportunity to
> provide copies of such mail,
> > we received again just the same baseless
> claims.*
> >
> >
> > More serious is that he says /“It is, in my
> opinion therefore, not
> > constructive to dwell on the past.”/- He had
> criticized our sharing of
> > concerns about the non-responsiveness of
> ISOC staff with other
> > Chapters and the Chairperson of the ISOC
> Boardto be unprofessional. He
> > is continuing to refuse to deal with serious
> problems. I repeat again
> > our mail which related to one of the two
> staff at the Asia Pacific
> > Regional Office:
> >
> > = = =
> >
> > *“ Dear Thip,
> > **After having received your mail, rejecting
> our request to serious
> > discuss the crisis for our Chapter, created
> as a result of the general
> > situation and legal requirements in Cambodia
> in the meeting, and the
> > refusal to ISOC staff to positively pay
> attention to our situation, we
> > do not think it would be appropriate to
> cooperate, as a Chapter, with
> > organizing a meeting for your 1 - 2.5 hours
> event, for which you would
> > like to invite the Members of the Cambodia
> Chapter and other
> > non-Chapter members. To discuss fundamental
> problems within ISOC,
> > affecting the whole membership, only among
> officers, as you suggest
> > (which has been tried in vain by email so
> far) would not be in line
> > with our history to promote and practice
> open communication – high
> > values regularly lifted up among the goals
> of the Internet Society
> > world wide and in its slogan: the Internet
> is for everyone.**
> >
> > The situation and this response has been
> shared and discussed with the
> > Members of the Advisory Board of our Chapter
> and is unanimously supported.
> >
> > Norbert Klein
> > President, ISOC-KH
> >
> > *The five members of our Advisory Board at
> that time were (reflecting
> > the stipulation of our Bylaws “The Advisory
> Board of five members,
> > from important sections of the ISOC Cambodia
> Chapter membership”):
> >
> > - the Head of the IT in Education Section in
> the Ministry of Education
> > - the Editor in Chief of a leading Cambodian
> daily newspaper, who is
> > at the same time President of the Club of
> Cambodian Journalists
> > - the President and CEO of a major broadband
> providing ISP
> > - a senior staff member in the office of the
> Council of Ministers of
> > the Government of Cambodia, and
> > - one student.
> >
> > = = =
> >
> > We do not have much confidence in regional
> and central staff of ISOC
> > that has damaged the formerly good name of
> ISOC in Cambodian society,
> > and no word is seen from them to apologize
> publicly or to rectify this
> > – but instead it is considered that we are
> unprofessional to raise
> > such unsolved problems. We do not think it
> is acceptable that ISOC
> > staff visits a country, refuses to discuss
> the problems identified as
> > important by a Chapter, holds her own
> meeting to which she invited
> > some people who said they did not know an
> hour ago that ISOC exists –
> > and she encourages them to become members
> and run for leadership in
> > the elections one month later. And senior
> staff of ISOC just keeps silent.
> >
> > The Documentation Center of Cambodia -
> www.dccam.org
> > <http://www.dccam.org> – has in every mail
> originating from themthe
> > sentence:
> >
> > *“...a society cannot know itself if it does
> not have an accurate
> > memory of its own history.”*
> >
> > The Internet Society would do well to
> consider this also for itself,
> > on its way into a better future.
> >
> >
> > Ted Mooney continues:
> >
> > /*1.* Chapter by-laws. From various
> correspondences and information
> > sent to the Cambodia Chapter, including
> examples of by-laws from other
> > chapters and stated flexibility to address
> the local needs dating back
> > to 2011, I would like to re-iterate the
> flexibility of the Chapter
> > By-laws template to assure that agreed
> Chapter By-laws account for all
> > local laws and special circumstances with
> respect to jurisdiction,
> > foreign affiliation and governance.
> > /
> > What he calls flexibility seems more to be a
> situation of confusion in
> > ISOC operations. It is obvious from the
> correspondence on the Chapters
> > list - that not all Chapters have been made
> to accept what is now in
> > our Bylaws – but these problematic elements
> continue to be on the ISOC
> > website as “mandatory” elements. And while
> he informs us that we are
> > free to flexibly apply the Chapters Bylaws
> template, at the same time
> > “Renewal Chapter Charter letters” are going
> out to be signed and
> > returned by 15 December 2013, including
> “chapter minimum standards”
> > stating that if a Chapter does not meet "one
> or more" a process of
> > “rejuvenation” will be initiated.
> >
> > One Chapter chair commented: “Somehow I miss
> all these in the ISOC
> > by-laws, but may be someone can enlighten
> us?”
> >
> > There is obviously no clarity and broad
> agreement with Chapters at
> > present about the content and role of
> Chapter Bylaws, as some of the
> > Chapter Delegatesmails show – with reference
> to a lot of time spent
> > for nothing in the past (*highlighting
> added*in our quoting):
> >
> > *-------- Original Message -------- *
> >
> > *Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Fwd:
> Renewal Internet Society
> > Chapter Charter
> > Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2013 15:44:09 +0200
> > From: Klaus Birkenbihl
> <Klaus.Birkenbihl at Isoc.de>
> > Organization: Internet Society German
> Chapter e.V. (ISOC.DE
> > <http://ISOC.DE>)
> > To: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
> > <mailto:chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
> > <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
> > <mailto:chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>>
> >
> >
> > ...I also don't foresee much change in
> practice if we sign the letter.
> > Nevertheless it is the wrong thing at the
> wrong time. During the last
> > years when chapters became more visible and
> active we discussed so
> > many beautiful things that could give
> support and help to be more
> > effective. E.g. Issue Trackers to identify
> issues and track their
> > resolution, Wikis to support collaboration
> and many other things the
> > Internet holds that other groups use to do
> better work. So next thing
> > we expected to see was some progress here.
> >
> > But instead of picking up e.g. the prototype
> that was provided by
> > Elena, we still lack reporting facilities
> for projects and problems,
> > collaboration tools, we stick to the old
> work-intensive AMS to
> > exchange our member data … But what we get
> is another version of the
> > Letter of Affiliation.
> >
> > Please keep in mind: it is effort, money and
> time that is provided by
> > chapters members that is used to do the
> work.
> >
> > Financial support by ISOC is rather
> marginal. (Did you e.g ever manage
> > to organize an event for $2000? For our last
> event even the fee for
> > the room was higher.) Knowing that ISOC
> lacks the budget to pay them,
> > chapters - though complaining once and a
> while - continue to work on
> > this base.
> >
> > The Letter of Association says ISOC wants
> you to perform such and
> > such, wants to define a maximum number of
> terms for office holders [is
> > this really a mission related concern?], and
> you need ["we believe in
> > numbers"] to have that many individual
> members, [can it be summed-up
> > with corporations? - AMS still don't let me
> report corporate members]
> > and so forth. Read this while keeping in
> mind that its chapters time,
> > chapters money, chapters effort. Doesn't it
> annoy you?
> >
> > I don't say we should be against the Letters
> of Association but given
> > the situation as it is - they should be the
> result of negotiations and
> > not a headquarters dictatorship.
> >
> > Maybe the newly to be created Chapters
> Advisory would be the group to
> > develop a template that fulfills 2 criteria:
> >
> > - it is balanced in terms of responsibility
> and control, benefit and
> > achievements
> > - it allow**s**to be adjusted to needs of
> individual chapters (e.g.
> > those with a commercial branch, or with
> corporate members, or with a
> > special focus like accessibility ...)
> >
> > Such Letter of Association could have a real
> effect.
> >
> > Klaus*
> >
> > *=*
> >
> > /*2.* The Chapter Administrative Support
> Working Group is now meeting
> > regularly to discuss various ways to address
> Chapter issues regarding
> > operational resources. As you have noted
> from the discussion in this
> > email forum, there is a wide disparity of
> views and therefore,
> > multiple solutions may be piloted.
> >
> > It is regrettable that this has not come
> together as quickly as the
> > Cambodia Chapter has needed, so we hope that
> you will reconsider your
> > voluntary de-chartering until there are more
> widely available support
> > options for you to evaluate. Please do keep
> in mind that local
> > self-sufficiency will always be a key
> component of any operations
> > resource strategy.
> > /
> > While local self-sufficiency is a broadly
> understandable principle,
> > the way this issue has been treated so far
> seems to have seen this as
> > a financial affair. We have not seen
> response to the much more complex
> > situation, where many people in Cambodia
> have, over the years and
> > again recently, been self-sufficient in
> providing their energy, their
> > health, their freedom, and in some cases
> their lives in the struggle
> > for justice and in the struggle to be free
> to communicate about it.
> > Alot of public support, legal assistance,
> and care for victims, is
> > however not based on local finances, but is
> provided by organizations
> > and institutions extending external
> solidarity funding support.
> >
> > We have shared information that
> communication technology and
> > information networks are fairly well
> developed in Cambodia and there
> > are working groups, regular activities,
> IXPs, organized structures,
> > Barcamps (the most recent one a week ago
> with more than 2000
> > participants)– quite a number of the ISOC
> Cambodia Chapter members
> > provided leadership in these fields. Our
> inquiry if ISOC could
> > financially assist in setting up and
> initially operating an office was
> > clearly related to the specific government
> regulations (*following the
> > ISOC staff guided Bylaw: “The Chapter shall
> be established as a
> > non-profit organization under the laws of
> Cambodia”*).
> >
> > If ISOC staff considers financial /“local
> self-sufficiency [...]
> > always be a key component of any operations
> resource strategy”/we are
> > out for the time being.
> >
> > One comment on the Chapter list had said
> there is no need for us to
> > defend ourselves – ISOC staff may have to
> defend themselves instead.
> > We leave this open – but if anybody is
> interested in our context, you
> > may find some more information about local
> contributions at the Annex
> > at the end of our Documentation to be sent
> out separately. This
> > material – voices from the Chapters - may be
> of value for the work
> > following a recent ISOC Board decision that
> “acknowledged the right of
> > Chapters to form an advisory group.”
> >
> > /*3.* We once again call upon the Cambodia
> Chapter to a) participate
> > with ISOC staff in a conference call to
> speak forthrightly about the
> > issues you raise, b) participate in the
> regularly scheduled Asia
> > Chapter Webex calls in which most other Asia
> chapters are now
> > participating. Regarding, a) above, we have
> noted your concern that
> > many Cambodia Chapter officers cannot attend
> a call at one time for
> > work-related and other obligations. We are
> very willing to have
> > multiple calls to accommodate various
> schedules and to be held at
> > times that allow as many officers to attend
> as possible.
> > /
> > We did not participate lately in such
> conference calls or webinars as
> > our experience over the years is that such
> talks did not lead to much
> > results. Especially multiple sessions on the
> same subject ended up
> > with open questions: What was really
> discussed or decided? Email
> > exchanges leave much clearer records.
> >
> > /On another note, there is currently a
> Chapter workshop in Bali ahead
> > of the IGF. I hope the Cambodian
> representative will take the
> > opportunity to speak to Naveed ul Haq,
> Chapter Development Manager for
> > Asia, Joyce Dogniez Director of Chapter
> Development and Raj Singh our
> > Regional Bureau Director. Such a
> conversation presents an additional
> > opportunity to resolve timing conflicts and
> help us all get to a
> > resolution of the issues.
> > /
> > Ted Mooney added:
> >
> > /“This is unfortunate as there is a travel
> fellowship available for
> > the each Asia Chapter to attend in which
> expenses are covered. My
> > assumption was that surely you would take
> advantage of such funding
> > from ISOC particularly when your
> representative would have a forum
> > with ISOC executives in which to discuss
> your specific issue. Why did
> > you chose not to attend?”
> > /
> > The fact that intensive communication on the
> Chapter list, with
> > several calls from various Chapter leaders
> calling on ISOC staff –
> > central and regional – to respond to the
> contents of our mail did not
> > result in such responses, was not an
> indication that to meet in Bali
> > would provide the practical and timely
> responses we were hoping for.
> > We did not want to ask for such
> international travel support for one
> > person to talk to ISOC staff traveling to
> Bali to talk about things
> > for which the 90 ISOC staff and advisors
> could not organize written
> > responses in the months and weeks before.
> >
> > And finally, Ted Mooney said:
> >
> > /“Also, I think we needn't burden Chapter
> Delegates with a lengthy and
> > hopefully fruitful conversation between us
> in email. I will no longer
> > be posting my responses to you to the entire
> list.”
> > /
> > Here the ISOC Senior Director, Membership &
> Services, is obviously not
> > in line with the many Chapter leaders who
> were interested and did
> > actively participate in the related
> discussions on the Chapters list.
> > As Ousmane MOUSSA TESSA from the Niger
> Chapter wrote:
> >
> >
> > *Hi all,
> > +1 Veni! [Bulgaria]
> >
> > In my previous mail I tried to share a quiet
> simple idea of the
> > "ecosystem" of ISOC. Veni summarized what
> this ecosystem must be. I'm
> > just thinking it just a global decentralized
> process, as Chapters
> > don't be considered as "subsidiaries" of
> company with an HQ and Board
> > of Trustees!
> >
> > BTW, I agree 200% with Veni about the fact,
> and keeping in mind that
> > "the strength of a chain is based on the
> quality of its weakest link".
> > Hence, let's support each other to move
> steadily and forward a visible
> > thread, so even the newcomers can jump easy
> in one the various wagons
> > of ISOC.
> >
> > Keep on talking, talking again, in the only
> aim to ... to sharpen our
> > current and future actions and overcome
> inherent difficulties of our
> > Global "institution".
> >
> > All the best
> >
> > Ousmane
> > Niger Chapter
> > *
> > We continue to share our communication.
> >
> >
> > We are committed to the “basic values” for
> which many persons around
> > the world became members of the ISOC – and
> it is our assumption that
> > many of our present Chapter members may want
> to continue to be members
> > of ISOC, for which they had to sign up
> before being able to become
> > members of a chapter.
> >
> > Probably there will also be an informal
> fellowship of “Friends of the
> > Internet in Cambodia” - and there may be
> interest in the future to see
> > how the recent decisions of the ISOC Board
> thataffirmed the role of
> > chapters in the governance and mission of
> the Internet Society will
> > work out, especially when a Chapters
> Advisory Group will have done its
> > work and hopefully the clarification of the
> role and relation of staff
> > and chapters may lead to a new start of
> ISOC.
> >
> >
> > Be Chantra
> >
> > chantra.be at gmail.com
> <mailto:chantra.be at gmail.com>
> >
> > (still) Secretary of the ISOC Cambodia
> Chapter
> >
> > until this announcement is sent out.
> >
> >
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> --
>
> Best,
> Veni Markovski
> http://www.veni.com
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>
> The opinions expressed above are those of the
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> with or related to him in any given way.
>
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