[Chapter-delegates] Trustees! not staff! Re: Announcement about the dissolution of ISOC-KH

Christian de Larrinaga cdel at firsthand.net
Tue Nov 5 10:33:57 PST 2013


Hi Glenn, You quoted my note then implied it said something critical of
staff that I did not say.  99% of my ISOC voluntary activities are
project focussed not governance nor administrative. As such I've worked
alongside several ISOC staff and they are superb.

The Cambodia story is pointing to something that needs looking into but
this should be by the Trustees. If that helps them orientate to how they
wish to see chapters develop in the round that would be a big plus. I
doubt this can legitimately be plonked just on a staff beer mat though.

I particularly don't think a generalised witch hunt is warrantied.  I'd
prefer - much prefer it if we got clear signals from trustees over the
intent on framing operational issues such as how chapters work with
ISOC. How staff working in chapter location or area of activity liaises
with the chapter and so on. 

You raise an MOU. ISOC England doesn't have one I believe. Our approved
charter was in October 1999 with rules based on ISOCs then rules. So
much has now changed that we want to restate our governance and have
been waiting on the new ISOC Byelaws and in particular any
interpretation placed on the role of chapters that trustees draw so that
we can arrive at some stable version fit for at least a few years.

The acknowledgement letter is a frustration because it cuts across what
we really need to do. Imposing deadlines and so on when actually we are
not resourced to conduct the task we need to do if to do it properly
including local consultations and so on in the timescale demanded. 

I can understand ISOC wanting to get things to move on but sometimes
reminders are needed that some are being paid but most are not.


Christian

> Glenn McKnight <mailto:contact at internetsociety.ca>
> 5 November 2013 15:52
> Hi All
> It's interesting reading this forum how  many of the writers  are
> dissatisified with the staff performance and in particular with the
>  Chapter  MOU. 
>
> Perhaps  we need to do some metrics and have a survey completed by an
> independent group to everyone on the performance of ISOC  from Top to
> Bottom.   
>
> Some of the poison pen stuff and finger pointing isn't helpful and
> it's getting people's  backs up.  We should be working colloboratively
> and building a positive spirit but  reading this delegate list  it's
>  a bit disconcerting. 
>
> Glenn
>
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> Christian de Larrinaga <mailto:cdel at firsthand.net>
> 5 November 2013 10:48
> Actually I think it is the Trustees who need to wake up and smell the
> coffee. We in part elect them. They are our representatives.
>
> I am not clear what Trustees want to achieve with a network of chapters
> as part of the new mission based ISOC organisation. I hope Trustees will
> set out some thoughts and ideas for what they want for chapters and set
> out a process including chapters directly to establish a plan how that
> can be optimally implemented.
>
> The recent letter we all received had more than an attitudinal tinge of
> "sign and shut up" about it which is not helpful if you genuinely want
> partners around the world defining and delivering your mission. It may
> be that the trustees want to act only through the staff and see chapters
> as a way to spread the footprint to elect some trustees and do some
> fringe activities convening local people. If that is the case then make
> that clear please.
>
> I genuinely need to know what the trustees want with chapters. I don't
> need the whole journey defined before Christmas but it would be helpful
> to get sight of the first steps at least and a vision for how "we" can
> define the journey, so by this time next year there is clarity.
>
> Christian
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