[Chapter-delegates] Invitation to vote in the 2013 ISOC BoT Chapter election

Tue May 14 09:27:53 PDT 2013

Dear Ricardo and others...

Very briefly, i think we have to strive to mantain telecommunications 
and Internet as separate issues. Of course there are some (growing) 
intersection but, while Telecomm represents in some way the traditional 
way to negotiate agreements and charging methods, and deliver standards 
(basically between governments, agencies, and telcos), Internet 
represents a totally new reality, with wide participation of all 
interested parties, multistakeholderism, cooperation, openess and a very 
different way to create and implement (in a voluntary basis) open 
standards (IETF).
So, in my opinion, we have to defend this very valuable (but also 
disrupting) new phenomenon, them have very strong implications not just 
in technology but mainly in economic model and in the society as a whole.
ISOC and chapters could be the very best way to spread this commitment 
and awareness in a global scale. Could be the focal point for evolving 
this discussion, for dissipating bad understandings, for fight for 
neutrality and for keeping the Internet free from strongholds of any kind.
Best

demi

On 05/14/2013 12:39 PM, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch wrote:
> Ricardo, Narelle,
>
> +1.
>
> Rudi, other members of the Elections Committee: can you help make that 
> happen?
>
> Yours,
>
> Alejandro Pisanty
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> [chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] en nombre de Ricardo 
> Holmquist [rihogris at gmail.com]
> *Enviado el:* martes, 14 de mayo de 2013 10:26
> *CC:* Chapter Delegates; ISOC Chapter Support
> *Asunto:* Re: [Chapter-delegates] Invitation to vote in the 2013 ISOC 
> BoT Chapter election
>
> Narelle,
> thanks you very much for your answers.
>
> As for the other candidates, can we hear from you?. It is particularly 
> important beeing in countries like mine to hear your views in this matter.
>
> regards
>
> Ricardo Holmquist
> ISOC Venezuela
>
>
> 2013/5/14 Narelle Clark President ISOC-AU <President at isoc-au.org.au 
> <mailto:President at isoc-au.org.au>>
>
>
>     On Mon, May 13, 2013 5:50 pm, Veni Markovski wrote:
>     > Hi, Narelle.
>     > Some natural questions for the candidates to be Trustees:
>     >
>     > We'd like to hear the views of the candidates about the desire
>     of the
>     > ITU to have an increased role and control mechanisms over the
>     Internet.
>     > Also, on the ITU relations with ISOC. ISOC is a sector member of the
>     > ITU-T and ITU-D. What's in it for ISOC? Who benefits more - ISOC
>     or ITU,
>     > or both equally?
>
>     It certainly appears that the ITU has been attempting to impose
>     controls
>     over the Internet, and it is completely certain that some members
>     of the
>     ITU are trying to impose controls that are antithetical to ISOC,
>     and are
>     making those attempts through the ITU forums. I have actively
>     campaigned
>     against the imposition of a number of those controls within my own
>     country, and will continue to do so in that capacity. I also
>     believe that
>     ISOC shares the same goals as I.
>
>     ISOC's position, however, needs to be distinctively nuanced and to
>     work
>     the diplomatic avenues thoroughly and effectively. It is my
>     personal view
>     that we need to stay at the ITU table on the basis that the ITU is a
>     United Nations body, and I actually persist with the hope that the
>     UN can
>     be effective. I believe we need to stay engaged with governments (in
>     general) in order to obtain the best result for the Internet overall.
>     There are potentially times when we will need to walk away from
>     the ITU
>     (and goevernment) discussions also, but at this stage I do not
>     believe we
>     are at that point. The next 12 or so months may change my view.
>
>     As far as who is getting the greater benefit - this is a difficult
>     measure
>     to make - at this stage the ITU seems to be getting a significant
>     benefit.
>     There is certainly the risk that our altruism may be overly tested,
>     however if it increases our positive engagement at the local level for
>     chapters in their respective countries, then I am happy for that
>     to be the
>     case. Indeed I would be proud if that turned out to be the case.
>     We are a
>     worthwhile organisation and achieve worthwhile things.
>
>     I don't believe we are overly adding to the credence of the ITU by
>     being
>     there - as I said, this is a UN body, and that has weight.
>
>     It also seems to me that the ITU still performs valuable work in the
>     ITU-R, and in some aspects of the ITU-D (eg OSS) but I would very much
>     like to see better participation, a reduction in the barriers to
>     participation, and better delineation from other standards bodies,
>     especially the IETF. The precise aspects of my view on the latter
>     is best
>     discussed within the appropriate IETF collaboration forums, too.
>
>     [In my moments where I believe that humanity has a hope of
>     survival, the
>     United Nations, or some form thereof, is still in existence! Call
>     me an
>     idealist.]
>
>     I hope this helps.
>
>     best regards
>
>
>     Narelle
>
>
>     --
>
>
>     Narelle Clark
>     President
>     Internet Society of Australia
>
>     president at isoc-au.org.au <mailto:president at isoc-au.org.au>
>     www.isoc-au.org.au <http://www.isoc-au.org.au>
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