[Chapter-delegates] Day-to-day funding
borka at e5.ijs.si
borka at e5.ijs.si
Tue Mar 12 17:21:11 PDT 2013
Dear Ted,
Your efforts in the direction as presented bellow will be welcomed.
With regards,
Borka
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013, Ted Mooney wrote:
> Dear Borka,
> This is important insight for which I thank you. We embrace your
> observation that chapters in different regions and circumstances have
> different needs, as well as the underlying principle that Chapters are
> trying to do more with an unchanging funds regime. Noting the outstanding
> work and contributions from chapters, Staff is very eager to explore
> structural and operational improvements to support Chapter collaboration,
> contribution and initiative. I am hopeful that we, Staff and Chapters,
> will use our Consultancy Framework with energy and optimism that our
> dialogs and efforts will continue to improve rather than churn in the "game"
> as you put it.
>
> We beleivel that our joint efforts will lead to continued improvement in
> resources and support for chapter work .
>
> Best regards,
>
> Ted
>
> Ted Mooney
> Sr. Director, Membership & Services
> Cell: 301-980-6446
> Skype: ted.mooney3
>
> www.internetsociety.org
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 12, 2013, at 7:44 AM, borka at e5.ijs.si wrote:
>
> Dear Veni,
>
>
> I agree with you and I appreciate the work done by many
> chapters.
> Some of us are not so loud to show what we are doing all the
> time,
> because we believe in the basic Internet Society mission and its
> importance. But as I
> said before every support and voluntary work has a limit. If
> the demands are rising then the support can not be at the
> same level as before. Other model must be found. We can not
> charge
> the members for membership as an obvious value is not given to
> them.
> It is a deadlock as already was concluded.
>
> Some ISOC missions and spending funds are not fully appropriate
> for
> all chapters and region, e.g. the IPv6 and the conference in
> Ljubljana
> (Slovenia is among the leading countries with IPv6
> implementation). No one
> asked us what should be more appropriate for us. Chapters and
> region differ very much and this should be considred. But the
> game is continuing.
>
> With regards,
>
> Borka
>
> On Tue, 12 Mar 2013, Veni Markovski wrote:
>
> Borka,
> it seems that instead of asking what the chapters
> can do for ISOC, we should
> ask what ISOC can do for the chapters.
> After all - and that's a fact not known to all
> people on this list, it were
> the chapters who provided the overwhelming support
> for ISOC, when it was
> bidding to get the management of .org.
> It were the chapters, who collected letters from
> governments, academia, and
> non-profits, to be brought against other bidders.
> Let me remind you, that
> some of the other bidders were also far better
> prepared to run a registry,
> than ISOC. Back then, ISOC was not the same
> organization as it is today, and
> therefore we, the chapters, have done our duty to
> ISOC.
> best,
> veni
>
> On 03/12/2013 07:18, borka at e5.ijs.si wrote:
> +1
>
> Well said. Our law does not allow for
> non-for-profit
> association as it is ISOC-SI corporate
> members. So, we do not
> have any
> donations or similar income. The work is done
> by volunteers, but for how long (we are paying
> the
> accounting clerk as we must provide each year
> to the tax office a financial report)?
>
> The demands to the chapters from
> ISOC staff are rising every day and it seems
> that chapters
> are working for an association with quite a big
> and paid staff
> without knowing why we must do that and why we
> must
> change the current modest voluntary support we
> have from our
> members.
> The European chapters had a meeting in
> Frankfurt on December
> 17th,
> three or four ISOC staff people attended the
> meeting but so far
> no Minutes appeared from the meeting. However,
> in the same time
> ISOC is requesting the chapters to send
> Minutes from their
> meetings and to run extensive membership
> administration, what
> is the basis for that request?
>
> With regards,
>
> Borka
> ISOC Slovenia.
>
> On Mon, 11 Mar 2013, Edwin A. Opare wrote:
>
> Elver,
>
> Well said.
>
> Any ideas, thoughts or suggestions on
> chapter
> sustainability especially when
> membership dues are not coming through
> and a chapter
> does not have any
> corporate members and their relating
> support on
> board?
>
> Edwin Opare oc.org
> --
> Best, Veni Markovski
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