[Chapter-delegates] Day-to-day funding

[borka at e5.ijs.si]

Dear Veni,


I agree with you and I appreciate the work done by  many  chapters.
Some of us are not so loud to show what we are doing all the time,
because we believe in the basic Internet Society mission and its 
importance. But as I
said before   every support and voluntary work  has a limit. 
If the demands are rising  then the support can not be at the
same level as before. Other model must be found.  We can not charge
the members for membership as an obvious value is not given to them.
It is a deadlock  as already was  concluded.

Some ISOC missions and spending funds are not fully appropriate for
all chapters and region, e.g. the IPv6 and the conference in Ljubljana
(Slovenia is among the leading countries with IPv6 implementation). No one
asked us  what should be more appropriate for us. Chapters and
region differ very much and this should be considred. But the 
game is  continuing.

With regards,

Borka

On Tue, 12 Mar 2013, Veni Markovski wrote:

> Borka,
> it seems that instead of asking what the chapters can do for ISOC, we should
> ask what ISOC can do for the chapters.
> 
> After all - and that's a fact not known to all people on this list, it were
> the chapters who provided the overwhelming support for ISOC, when it was
> bidding to get the management of .org.
> It were the chapters, who collected letters from governments, academia, and
> non-profits, to be brought against other bidders. Let me remind you, that
> some of the other bidders were also far better prepared to run a registry,
> than ISOC. Back then, ISOC was not the same organization as it is today, and
> therefore we, the chapters, have done our duty to ISOC.
> 
> best,
> veni
>  
> 
> On 03/12/2013 07:18, borka at e5.ijs.si wrote:
>       +1
>
>       Well said.  Our law does not  allow for non-for-profit
>       association as it is  ISOC-SI  corporate members. So, we do not
>       have any
>       donations or similar income. The work is done
>       by volunteers, but for how long (we are paying the
>       accounting clerk as we must provide each year
>       to the tax office a financial  report)?
>
>       The demands to the chapters from
>       ISOC staff are rising every day  and it seems that  chapters 
>       are working for an association with quite a big and  paid staff 
>       without knowing  why we must do that and why we must
>       change the current modest voluntary support we have from our
>       members.
>       The European chapters had a meeting in Frankfurt on December
>       17th,
>       three or four  ISOC staff people attended the meeting but so far
>       no Minutes appeared from the meeting. However, in the same time 
>       ISOC is requesting the chapters to send  Minutes from their
>       meetings and to run extensive  membership administration,  what
>       is the basis for  that request?
> 
>
>       With regards,
>
>       Borka
>       ISOC Slovenia.
> 
>
>       On Mon, 11 Mar 2013, Edwin A. Opare wrote:
> 
>
>             Elver,
>
>             Well said.
>
>             Any ideas, thoughts or suggestions on chapter
>             sustainability especially when
>             membership dues are not coming through and a chapter
>             does not have any
>             corporate members and their relating support on
>             board?
>
>             Edwin Opare oc.org
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Best, 
> Veni Markovski
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