[Chapter-delegates] ITU conferences
Amr Selim
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Thu Feb 7 03:31:56 PST 2013
My view of the subject is almost identical to Nabil's - well said Nabil and
Thank you.
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Amr Selim
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On 7 February 2013 12:25, <bukhalidn at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Alejandro,
>
> To answer your question: "What does each chapter see as highlights and
> problems?"
>
> ****
>
> I belong to the Middle East region were all of the governments’
> representatives at ITU voted for the ITR in Dubai and I am not proud of
> that at all. So in view of the humiliating failure, I will skip the
> highlights.****
>
> ** **
>
> Few days before the WCIT meeting, Lebanon’s representative speaking as a
> panelist at INET Qatar, was passionate at defending the Internet
> multi-stakeholder model and went even further to ask for no government
> intervention at all. The political manipulation that led to the
> contradictory vote is still a mystery to us but we were not very surprised
> from the outcome.****
>
> ** **
>
> During ISOC Lebanon Chapter preparatory strategic planning works in
> November 2012 we reached to the following:****
>
>
> 1 . What are the key challenges facing ISOC (Global) over the next 3 to 5
> years in accomplishing its objectives in the Middle East region?****
>
> a. Distrust in ISOC’s stewardship mainly from governments****
>
> b. Disinterest from the region in participation and contribution
> to ISOC bodies/groups such as Advisory Council, IETF, etc.****
>
> c. Lack or poor understanding of the region geo-political,
> eco-social and cultural dynamics****
>
> d. Well established competition such as ITU, ESCWA, Arab League***
> *
>
> e. Shy ISOC presence in the region at all level (official visits
> to government, media coverage, targeting advertizing and marketing,
> conferences, workshops, etc.)****
>
> ** **
>
> 2. What are the actions or strategies that we can consider at the regional
> level in response to these challenges taking in consideration the
> unexploited capabilities and unemployed capacities?****
>
> ** **
>
> a. Increase representation from the region in ISOC****
>
> b. <confidential restricted to ISOC-LB leadership team>****
>
> c. Create ISOC bodies/groups for the region from the region – shy
> mailing list exists****
>
> d. Promote the value of the multi-stakeholders model to
> government, civil society, business and academic****
>
> e. Foster two-way engagement between ISOC and the Internet
> community in the region with focus on governments****
>
> f. Develop and train next generation leaders from the region****
>
> g. Support and sponsor Internet related awareness and training
> activities such as Internet Governance, copyright, privacy, e-transaction
> laws, arbitration, IPv6, DNSSEC, security, routing, TLD management and
> operation, IX management and operation, etc. ****
>
> h. Promote ISOC and ISOC local chapters via official visits to
> government officials and key stakeholders ****
>
> i. Promote ISOC and ISOC local chapters via public media
> coverage, targeted advertizing and marketing campaigns, conferences, etc.*
> ***
>
> ** **
>
> As ISOC chapters we are a bunch of good intentioned volunteers, sparing
> whatever time and resources we can afford to promote the Internet and
> defend it. When we approach government official we are actually unofficial
> representative of they don’t know what. On the other hand ITU, ESCWA, the
> Arab League representations are official with full time personnel mandated
> with research, marketing, negotiation and lobbying tasks. ****
>
> ** **
>
> If we are the government faced with that unruly but vital development tool
> that might make or break the economical competitive edge of the country,
> deeply impact its political system and cultural identity, etc. which point
> of view we would consider more seriously? The point of view of enthusiastic
> hobbyist or those of ITU where you are treated as equal with full voting
> power? (not to be misunderstood I am not promoting ITU’s operandus modi)**
> **
>
> ** **
>
> With ITU intervention (and in our part of the world the Arab League) we
> are entering new playgrounds that we are not prepared or equipped for. We
> should rethink our model of local representations to be taken seriously and
> to gain legitimacy/authority. Dependence on our personal assets proved to
> be inadequate to say the least.****
>
>
> Best regards,****
>
> Nabil****
>
> ** **
>
> -- ****
>
> *Nabil Bukhalid*****
>
> President****
>
> *ISOC Lebanon*****
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> P.O.Box 113-6596
> Hamra, Lebanon ****
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> *M*: +961 (0)3 779116
> *E*: nabil.bukhalid at isoc.org.lb ****
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> ****
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> *W* <http://www.isoc.org.lb/>* *. *Fb*<http://www.facebook.com/pages/ISOC-Lebanon/157181607638474>
> * *. *T* <http://twitter.com/ISOCLebanon> ****
>
> ** **
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> ** **
>
> ---****
>
> On 07/02/2013, at 4:33 AM, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch wrote:****
>
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>
> ****
>
> Veni,****
>
> ** **
>
> thanks for sharing this! My reaction is somewhere between "I confess" and
> "Orwell." ****
>
> ** **
>
> We definitely must work hard with our governments.****
>
> ** **
>
> We would do well in quickly assessing what went well and what didn't work
> or even was counterproductive in our interventions (individual, collective,
> through HQ and in the aggregate) for WCIT in order to do even better in
> WTPF.****
>
> ** **
>
> What does each chapter see as highlights and problems? let's list no more
> than three each in this round. ****
>
> ** **
>
> Yours,****
>
> ** **
>
> Alejandro Pisanty****
>
> ** **
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> ****
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> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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> Facultad de Química UNAM****
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>
> *Desde:* chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org [
> chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] en nombre de Veni Markovski [
> veni at veni.com]
> *Enviado el:* miércoles, 06 de febrero de 2013 10:22
> *Hasta:* Giandomenico Massari
> *CC:* 'Chapter Delegates'
> *Asunto:* [Chapter-delegates] ITU conferences****
>
> I think you should familiarize yourselves with these selected quotes from
> the Iranian contribution to the Sec-Gen report on the WTPF (attached). **
> **
>
>
> It might be good for chapters to start thinking how better to educate our
> governments, so that they don't fall into issuing similar statements.****
>
>
> v.****
>
> ****
>
> …****
>
> ****
>
> Internet has been used as a tool/means to disseminate false, untrue,
> misleading, inciting, provocative information, propaganda, cultural attack
> which have had adverse impact on culture, dignity, customs, tradition,
> conviction belief, friendship, family life, honor of peoples in certain
> circumstances, and for certain countries as well as social instability,
> security, integrity, unity, solidarity, integrity, political stability and
> peace in certain other countries.****
>
> ****
>
> …****
>
> ****
>
> Are we serious that Internet is part of telecommunication infrastructure
> (wired and/or wireless? At recent WCIT-12, Internet was considered as a
> “Holly Word “and no one was allowed to pronounce it loudly otherwise the
> action could have had a severe consequences?****
>
> ****
>
> …****
>
> ****
>
> The catastrophic issue is that some country , exercises major control
> over a vital area of Internet governance improperly and misleadingly
> claims that the broaden intergovernmental participation in the governance
> of Internet would result in handing over the key issues to other
> countries to have any role in the governance of the Internet . ****
>
> The question is that requiring that service providers to block access
> to certain websites, very much contrary to official positions claimed by
> some country on censorship and internet freedom, is almost certainly in
> contradiction with transparency, openness, and democratic functioning
> of Internet.****
>
> ****
>
> …****
>
> ****
>
> The fundamental question here is whether Today’s Internet is *,
> transparent and democratic and open. Due to the fact that these adjectives
> have different meaning in view of different entities /people *In view
> of many governments, in particular, those of developing countries none of
> these three adjectives prevail in the Internet Process .a) it is not
> transparent as the relevant information is not actually clear and
> transparent. It is not democratic since governments has either no role or
> little advisory role in the management of the Internet .It is not
> democratic because governments are not treated with / on equal footing with
> respect of other players .It is there under almost private or less
> inclusive / non collective management. In fact some of the most important
> area of Internet dealing with public policy issues are not governed by
> collective governments cooperation or any intergovernmental organization
> but by individual national government( s) and big businesses as a totally
> decentralized bottom-up regime of governance .The most blend of that is
> that a very narrow pro WGIG DEFINITION of Internet governance exclude vital
> issues such as intellectual property, privacy, enforcement, and data
> protection on line filtering and network neutrality.****
>
> The catastrophic issue is that some country, exercises major control over
> a vital area of Internet governance improperly and misleadingly claims
> that the broaden intergovernmental participation in the governance of
> Internet would result in handing over the key issues to other countries
> to have any role in the governance of the Internet.****
>
> ****
>
> ….****
>
> ****
>
> Best,****
>
> Veni****
>
> ****
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>
>
>
>
> ****
>
> -- ****
>
> ** **
>
> Best, ****
>
> Veni Markovski****
>
> http://www.veni.com****
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> https://www.facebook.com/venimarkovski****
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> https://twitter.com/veni****
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