[Chapter-delegates] ITU conferences

Wed Feb 6 16:54:46 PST 2013

Dear Alejandro,

To answer your question: "What does each chapter see as highlights and
problems?" the following remarks:

The highlight is definitely the huge investments many ISOC members made
to influence the outcome of the last the ITU/WCIT.

A problem is the following: With the ITU/WCIT we are a gradually
entering a new playground. Recognize that international politics and
diplomacy are light-years away from our historical more technical
background. Good intentions and a common view for the next challenges
are there, but a joint strategy (covering organization, operational
strategy, intelligence, education, staffing, financial resources,
a.s.o.) is missing.

Best regards,

Dick Kalkman

President Internet Society The Netherlands
ISOC The Netherlands Chapter

E: d.h.kalkman at isoc.nl
I: http://isoc.nl
A: Prins Willem-Alexanderhof 5
   Kamer i4.310
   2595 BE Den Haag
   The Netherlands

On 6-2-2013 18:33, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch wrote:
> Veni,
>
> thanks for sharing this! My reaction is somewhere between "I confess"
> and "Orwell." 
>
> We definitely must work hard with our governments.
>
> We would do well in quickly assessing what went well and what didn't
> work or even was counterproductive in our interventions (individual,
> collective, through HQ and in the aggregate) for WCIT in order to do
> even better in WTPF.
>
> What does each chapter see as highlights and problems? let's list no
> more than three each in this round. 
>
> Yours,
>
> Alejandro Pisanty
>
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> *Desde:* chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org
> [chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] en nombre de Veni
> Markovski [veni at veni.com]
> *Enviado el:* miércoles, 06 de febrero de 2013 10:22
> *Hasta:* Giandomenico Massari
> *CC:* 'Chapter Delegates'
> *Asunto:* [Chapter-delegates] ITU conferences
>
> I think you should familiarize yourselves with these selected quotes
> from the Iranian contribution to the Sec-Gen report  on the WTPF
> (attached).
>
>
> It might be good for chapters to start thinking how better to educate
> our governments, so that they don't fall into issuing similar statements.
>
>
> v.
>
>  
>
> ...
>
>  
>
> Internet has been used as a tool/means to disseminate false, untrue,
> misleading, inciting, provocative information, propaganda, cultural
> attack which have had adverse impact on culture, dignity, customs,
> tradition, conviction belief, friendship, family life, honor of
> peoples in certain circumstances, and for certain countries as well as
> social instability, security, integrity, unity, solidarity, integrity,
> political stability and peace in certain other countries.
>
>  
>
> ...
>
>  
>
> Are we serious that Internet is part of telecommunication
> infrastructure (wired and/or wireless? At recent WCIT-12, Internet was
> considered as a "Holly Word "and no one was allowed to pronounce it
> loudly otherwise the action could have had a severe consequences?
>
>  
>
> ...
>
>  
>
> The catastrophic issue is that  some country , exercises  major 
> control over a vital area of Internet governance  improperly and
> misleadingly claims that the broaden intergovernmental participation
> in the governance of Internet would  result in handing  over the key
> issues to  other countries to have any role in the governance of the
> Internet . 
>
> The question is that requiring  that  service providers to block
> access to certain websites, very much contrary to official positions 
> claimed by  some country on censorship and internet freedom, is 
> almost certainly in contradiction with  transparency,   openness, and
> democratic functioning of Internet.
>
>  
>
> ...
>
>  
>
> The fundamental question here is whether Today's Internet is /,
> transparent and democratic and open. Due to the fact that these
> adjectives have different meaning in view of different  entities
> /people  /In view of many governments, in particular, those of
> developing countries none of these three adjectives prevail in the
> Internet Process .a) it is not transparent as the relevant information
> is not actually clear and transparent. It is not democratic since
> governments has either no role or little advisory role in the
> management of the Internet .It is not democratic because governments
> are not treated with / on equal footing with respect of other players
> .It is there under almost private or  less inclusive / non collective
> management. In fact some of the most important area of Internet
> dealing with public policy issues are not governed by collective
> governments cooperation or any intergovernmental organization but by
> individual national government( s) and big businesses as a totally
> decentralized bottom-up regime of governance .The most blend of that
> is that a very narrow pro WGIG DEFINITION of Internet governance
> exclude vital issues such as intellectual property, privacy,
> enforcement, and data protection on line filtering and network neutrality.
>
> The catastrophic issue is that some country, exercises major control
> over a vital area of Internet governance  improperly and misleadingly
> claims that the broaden intergovernmental participation in the
> governance of Internet would  result in handing  over the key issues
> to  other countries to have any role in the governance of the Internet.
>
>  
>
> ....
>
>  
>
> Best,
>
> Veni
>
>  
>
>
>
>
> -- 
>
> Best, 
> Veni Markovski
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