[Chapter-delegates] [Itu2012chapters] The Internet Days Conference in Stockholm Oct 23-24 - net neutrality session Oct 24

[Sivasubramanian M]

Dear Vint Cerf,

I was at the Net Neutrality panel in the India Internet Conference recently
and had some difficulty in insisting on the concept of a dumb pipeline,
because I was given to understand that this is not the absolute position of
the Internet Community. There has been some relaxation on the idea of a
dump pipe, to the extent that the Community has been tolerant to the views
such as 'QoS could be allowed as long as there is no special fee' or
tolerate the view that 'discrimination is OK as long as the fee paid is not
for exclusive access and if users from different qualities of Service could
communicate across service categories'

These tolerances have probably arisen - well meant-  out of a willingness
to be flexible and make the 'necessary' compromises, but this has created
room for destructive proposals such as the ETNO proposal.

My fear is that a flexible position on something deemed necessary would
lead to greater compromises and possible abuse. Shouldn't we be insistent
on the concept of the dumb network?

Sivasubramanian M



On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 5:47 AM, Vint Cerf <vint at google.com> wrote:

> I understand that ETNO is now amending its "sender pays" to a version of
> "sender pays for better service" that leads one to imagine that the service
> for which both sender and receiver pay is "not very good"... incentives are
> all wrong here.
> v
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Jan Flodin <jan.flodin at state.se> wrote:
>
>> I have put together a session under the theme
>>
>> "Net Neutrality - Where do we go from here? I assume it will be of
>> interest to our ISOC community.
>>
>> http://www.internetdagarna.se/ind12/program/talare/431
>>
>> OCT 24, 15:10  (3:10 PM) in Stockholm, Sweden, which would be 9:10 AM in
>> New York, USA, according to timezoneconverter.com .
>>
>>
>> The participants are
>>
>> - Matthijs van Bergen, Bits of Freedom, one of the architects behind the
>> Dutch law from May that protects strict net neutrality in Holland.
>>
>> - Vesa Terävä, the European Commission, head of the unit for national
>> regulatory measures.
>>
>> - Jean-Jacques Sahel, Microsoft, among other things, Skype!
>>
>> - Luigi Gambardella (!) , ETNO, the European Telecommunications Network
>> Operator's Association.
>>
>>
>> Luigi participates online (Video and Sound)  from Poland because of the
>> ETNO GA there.
>>
>> The session will be webcast via Bambuser. It is always possible to hook
>> up to the webcast by going to
>> internetdagarna.se once the conference starts, but I will announce any
>> direct link as soon as I know.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jan
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