[Chapter-delegates] Meeting on WCIT at the Federal Ministry of Economics and Technology

[Jan Moenikes]

Just want to add the comments on my collegue Malini who also attended the meeting.

Best Regards, Jan

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Jan,

With regard to the position of Verizon and Vodafone, the report of ISOC from the meeting on WCIT at the BMWi does not exactly meet the facts. Both companies indeed agreed with ETNO's representative of Deutsche Telekom that several problems appear on the international markets that generally need to be solved. However, it was stressed that these problems should neither be subject nor can be solved in the current debate on the revision of the ITR. As such, ETNO's position to discuss these problems in the context of WCIT and the ITR was NOT supported.

Regards,
Malini

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From: Klaus Birkenbihl <Klaus.Birkenbihl at Isoc.de>
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Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 10:11:49 
To: Dave Burstein<daveb at dslprime.com>
Cc: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org<chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Meeting on WCIT at the Federal Ministry of
 Economics and Technology

Dave,

Verizon didn't speak-up much. What I heard them say was >>we support
much of the ETNO proposal (esp. the QoS part) but we don't think
it should become part of the ITRs<<. Same for Vodaphone.

Klaus

Dave Burstein wrote on 2012-10-01 23:18:
> Klaus
> 
> This is very important reporting for the U.S., because our NTIA head,
> Larry Strickling, said at the Columbia event just about everyone here
> was backing the U.S. position. Verizon splitting from that is
> significant because of their massive lobbying power. 
> 
>    All details on what Verizon and Vodafone said would be very helpful.
> 
> Thanks
> db
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 7:30 AM, Klaus Birkenbihl
> <Klaus.Birkenbihl at isoc.de <mailto:Klaus.Birkenbihl at isoc.de>> wrote:
> 
>     Colleagues,
> 
>     this is a summary of a meeting that took place at the German Federal
>     Ministry of Economics and Technology (BMWi) last Thursday 9/27
>     10:00-17:00.
>     I participated in the meeting on behalf of ISOC.DE <http://ISOC.DE>.
>     Attendance:
> 
>     ~30 Participants representing the usual suspects as well as reps
>     of the environment like consumers, industry, computer manufacturers
>     (Intel, NEC ...), assistants to MoPs ...
> 
>     Presentations:
> 
>     Voss, Head of department for Technology policy (BMWi)
>     Welcome
> 
>     Scholl, (ITU Secretariat)
>     presents ITU. How we work, why often misjudged, consensus based,
>     members ...
> 
>     Schöppner, Deputy Head of department for Technology policy (BMWi)
>     on positions of BMWI on WCIT proposals. 10 selected topics. Positions
>     either in line with or not covered by ISOC C74. These positions
>     are according to BMWi in line with CEPT. Main rationals:
>     Don't change a running system
>     Don't extend ITR's scope or bindingness
>     Schöpner's presentation received quite some support during the
>     discussion.
> 
>     Doll, (Deutsche Telekom)
>     presents ETNO C 109. Controversial discussions. I, referring to
>     European
>     Chapters Position argued against the QoS part (a threat for net
>     neutrality) and the SPNP. (BMWi showed a lot of sympathy with the
>     ETNO paper which obviously was achieved in their previous talks
>     with Deutsche Telekom) Voss (BMWi) blocked further discussion
>     of Net Neutrality referring to a separate event on this topic.
>     Other carriers (Verizon, Vodaphone ...) support ETNO positions.
>     But they discussed whether they should become part of the ITRs.
> 
>     Schwarz (Federal Network Agency)
>     (The Federal Network Agency for Electricity, Gas, Telecommunications,
>     Post and Railway is a separate higher federal authority within the
>     scope of business of the German Federal Ministry of Economics and
>     Technology) brought forward a strong position of his agency against
>     ETNO C 109, covering most of concerns that are shared by ISOC.
>     Schwarz emphasized that this position was covered by the head of
>     the agency. This lead to a certain huff on side of the ministry.
> 
>     That's it in short. One of the participants asked the ministry to
>     provide a WIKI to continue discussion and collect references.
>     Not much support for the idea from the ministry. So ISOC.DE
>     <http://ISOC.DE>
>     is considering to pick-up this idea and provide the technical
>     infrastructure for the discussion.
> 
>     We also received a friendly coverage from a leading ICT publisher
>     (Heise):
>     http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Europa-sucht-gemeinsame-Position-zur-internationalen-Telecom-Regulierung-1720367.html
> 
> 
>     Schöne Grüße, Klaus
> 
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