[Chapter-delegates] US Six Strikes Anti-Piracy Scheme Delayed
Markus Kummer
kummer at isoc.org
Fri May 25 10:45:33 PDT 2012
We thought of NYC, as your Chapter had expressed interest first. But of course DC would also be a good option.
Best regards
Markus
On May 24, 2012, at 9:08 PM, Joly MacFie wrote:
> Will this be in DC, or NYC?
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> j
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> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Paul Brigner <brigner at isoc.org> wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
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> Markus and I are coordinating on this effort, and we have a plan to: 1) provide an opportunity for the CCI principals to describe and respond to ISOC members' Q&A about the program (the panel discussion I mentioned in my note), and 2) hold a roundtable discussion with CCI to provide ISOC's feedback with the goal of improving the system (the meeting Markus described). The public session will be held first and will serve to make the roundtable discussion more productive.
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> I am counting on everyone who participates to help me keep the first session non-confrontational. It will not be a debate but rather an informational session with the opportunity for ISOC members to have real-time interaction with the principals. Our goal in the fist session should be to learn and to identify areas where the program might be improved so Markus can follow-up as needed.
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> Further details will be coming soon.
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> Best regards,
> Paul Brigner
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> Regional Bureau Director, North America
> Internet Society
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> "The Internet is for Everyone"
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> On May 24, 2012, at 4:45 AM, Markus Kummer wrote:
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>> Hi,
>>
>> Allow me to chine in, as we had discussed this matter with David a few weeks ago.
>>
>> We are generally in favor of industry self-regulation, but in this case we also share some of the concerns that have been expressed by civil society groups, in particular with regard to due process. We also have a few questions.
>>
>> I share Jason's point of view that a public debate needs to be based on solid information. A public discussion can easily turn out to be confrontational. For this reason we think it might be preferable to have some kind of round table discussion, in a closed session among all parties concerned, to discuss the system, to ask questions we may have and to look for possible answers. One of our priorities would be to introduce some sort of due process, maybe in the form of alternative dispute resolution. In our view, ISOC would be well placed to bring all parties together with a view to improving the system and we would be happy to support the New York Chapter in this endeavor.
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>> Best regards
>> Markus
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>> On May 23, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Joly MacFie wrote:
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>>> We'd be happy to mount a public discussion event in NYC.
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>>> j
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>>> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Livingood, Jason
>>> <Jason_Livingood at cable.comcast.com> wrote:
>>>> I might recommend that Chapters interested in making a statement on the
>>>> system consider discussing the system with the parties directly involved -
>>>> essentially being briefed on how it will work - rather than depending upon
>>>> fragmentary news reports. In my experience I have found this leads to much
>>>> more informed policy debate. And it also leads organizations that may be
>>>> critical to be able to understand the real areas of concern that they may
>>>> choose to focus their energies on.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I can try to help arrange such a briefing if there is interest.
>>>>
>>>> - Jason
>>>>
>>>> On 5/22/12 2:14 PM, "David Solomonoff" <drsolomonoff at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We've discussed doing something on these topics and hopefully will have
>>>>> a Board meeting this week to begin planning.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/22/12 12:39 PM, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch wrote:
>>>>>> David,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks for putting this report on the Chapters list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yesterday I quoted it on Twitter together with the Pakistan Twitter ban
>>>>>> as two examples of non-multistakeholder Internet Governance. Decisions
>>>>>> made by governments alone are our usual example; companies alone, with
>>>>>> barely any regulation by government, scarce if any (and internal)
>>>>>> technical advice, and not even a consultation with consumers or civil
>>>>>> society, are another. That this happens inside a country doesn't make it
>>>>>> a lot less signficant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Therefore, it is more local than global, more for individual chapters
>>>>>> to address, but feeding from ISOC global resources of information and
>>>>>> educated opinion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are the chapters based in the US planning any action or statements on
>>>>>> 6-strikes and other private children of the same mentality that brought
>>>>>> us SOPA?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yours,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alejandro Pisanty
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>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>> Desde: chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org
>>>>>> [chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] en nombre de David
>>>>>> Solomonoff [president at isoc-ny.org]
>>>>>> Enviado el: martes, 22 de mayo de 2012 09:33
>>>>>> Hasta: Markus Kummer; Paul Brigner; ISOCNY BOD; Internet Society
>>>>>> Discuss; Chapter Delegates
>>>>>> Asunto: [Chapter-delegates] US Six Strikes Anti-Piracy Scheme Delayed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> US ³Six Strikes² Anti-Piracy Scheme Delayed
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Soon the file-sharing habits of millions of BitTorrent users in the
>>>>>> United States will be monitored as part of an agreement between the
>>>>>> MPAA, RIAA, and all the major ISPs. Those caught sharing copyright works
>>>>>> will receive several warning messages and will be punished if they
>>>>>> continue to infringe. However, it now appears that the much-discussed
>>>>>> July start date will have to wait until later in the year as the parties
>>>>>> involved may fail to meet the provisional deadline.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the coming months the Center for Copyright Information (CCI) will
>>>>>> start to track down Œpirates¹ as part of an agreement all major U.S.
>>>>>> Internet providers struck with the MPAA and RIAA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The parties agreed on a system through which copyright infringers are
>>>>>> warned that their behavior is unacceptable. After six warnings ISPs may
>>>>>> then take a variety of repressive measures, which include slowing down
>>>>>> offenders¹ connections and temporary disconnections.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The plan was announced under the name ŒCopyright AlertsŒ in July last
>>>>>> year and the first ISPs were expected to send out the first warnings
>>>>>> before the end of 2011. But this deadline passed silently and as things
>>>>>> stand now it looks like the July 1, 2012 deadline is not going to be met
>>>>>> by all ISPs either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TorrentFreak asked the CCI about the upcoming target date, and their
>>>>>> response suggests that things may take longer than expected.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ³The dates mentioned in the Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) are not
>>>>>> hard deadlines but were intended to keep us on track to have the
>>>>>> Copyright Alert System up and running as quickly as possible and in the
>>>>>> most consumer friendly manner possible,² a spokesperson told us.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ³We do not intend to launch until we are confident that the program is
>>>>>> consumer friendly and able to be implemented in a manner consistent with
>>>>>> all of the goals of the MOU. We expect our implementation to begin later
>>>>>> this year.²
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In other words, it¹s taking more time than expected. That said, the CCI
>>>>>> did inform us that they have finally selected a third-party company that
>>>>>> will be responsible for monitoring BitTorrent swarms. However, the name
>>>>>> of the firm remains a secret for now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ³The technology partner we have identified and begun working with is an
>>>>>> independent and impartial expert and we expect to have an announcement
>>>>>> about the independent expert shortly,² TorrentFreak was told.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As described in the agreement, this independent ³technology partner²
>>>>>> will first be tested by yet another independent expert to see if their
>>>>>> data collection methods stand up to scrutiny. This is a possible reason
>>>>>> for the ³delay² but there are many more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At their end the internet providers all have to create a system that
>>>>>> allows them to keep track of the warnings. To ensure the privacy of
>>>>>> subscribers, this database of alleged pirates is not stored centrally.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hoping to find out more about what type of punishments ISPs have planned
>>>>>> and their views on the agreement, we contacted several of them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Verizon was quick to respond but didn¹t want to provide any details on
>>>>>> the planned punishments. The ISP did say that they believe the voluntary
>>>>>> agreement is the right solution for the piracy problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ³Verizon has always said that copyright infringement is wrong and
>>>>>> through this voluntary consumer friendly system, we believe we can
>>>>>> educate our consumers and offer them access to legal alternatives,² the
>>>>>> company told TorrentFreak.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ³We believe this program offers the best approach to the problem of
>>>>>> illegal file sharing and, importantly, is one that respects the privacy
>>>>>> and rights of our subscribers. It also provides a mechanism for helping
>>>>>> people to find many great sources of legal content.²
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Other Internet providers contacted by TorrentFreak, including Comcast
>>>>>> and AT&T, did not respond to repeated inquiries about the BitTorrent
>>>>>> crackdown.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The CCI, however, ensured TorrentFreak that none of the ISPs has plans
>>>>>> to terminate the accounts of subscribers. Temporary disconnections
>>>>>> remain as one of the possible punishments. Which measures the various
>>>>>> ISPs will choose remains a mystery for now. We¹ll publish more on this
>>>>>> and other details of the scheme in the near future.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://torrentfreak.com/us-six-strikes-anti-piracy-scheme-delayed-120518
>>>>>> /
>>>>>> (via shareaholic)
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