[Chapter-delegates] Twitter officially banned in Pakistan - more to follow

Mon May 21 03:48:35 PDT 2012

Dear Barrack Otieno

It is a good development to see increased use of social media by elected
and appointed officers of Governments.  As you have pointed out, it would a
be positive approach on our part to think of ways by which we could promote
use of Internet, especially social media by the political leaders and
appointed officers of the Government. First hand experience of the positive
aspects by the Government would make a remarkable difference to policy
considerations.

Sivasubramanian M

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 1:33 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com>wrote:

> Kenya will be electing a new government in a couple of months and i am
> glad majority of the key politicians have incorporated Social Media
> (Twitter and Face Book) in their campaigns and are using them to interface
> with voters this has been occassioned due to public demand ( we have more
> than 2 million . Some local leaders are also using twitter in governance
> functions
> http://www.jikaze.com/news/kenyan-chief-tweets-his-way-to-reducing-crime/ .
> I am using this example to demonstrate that there are two sides to the
> coin, I know each country has its own dynamics though IMO if a government
> is shown the positive side of social media, they might change their
> directives. The question is how and why, this is where the whole business
> of multistakeholderism comes in our president recently supported the use of
> Facebook and twitter for socio economic developement and urged more Kenyans
> to embrace it this was a culmination of efforts from different stakeholder
> groups, we just hosted the las IGF. It is important to learn how to engage
> and lobby governments in a way that we can win them over, this is a role
> that is perfomed by civil society and private sector in most countries.
> With all due respect to the countries sovereignity i would propose that the
> local ISOC chapter engages with the authorities with a view to finding an
> amicable solution. Should they lack the capacity to do so they can enlist
> the support of the global office or other chapters to engage the
> authorities however i don't support the issuance of press releases in cases
> where national issues are concerned, due diplomatic procedures have to be
> adhered to if any usefull outcome is to be achieved.
>
>
> On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Sivasubramanian M <isolatedn at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 12:19 AM, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch <
>> apisan at unam.mx> wrote:
>>
>>>  Joly,
>>>
>>>  a government order to ISPs to block something sounds like a ZSDOS, a
>>> Zero-Sofistication Denial of Service. Question for your concern about
>>> DNSSEC (which I find of second order of importance, but of course valid)
>>> will be how the ISPs obey the order and for that, how eagerly they exert
>>> efforts to comply with it.
>>>
>>
>> In Pakistan, perhaps also in India, ISPs may not have the freedom to
>> overlook / protest a Government directive unless there is an overwhelming
>> pressure by the users on the ISPs to protest. I find it difficult to assume
>> that the ISPs find it convenient to comply with such Government directives.
>> Often the compliance arises out of an inability to protest.
>>
>> Sivasubramanian M
>>
>>
>>>
>>>  BTW BytesForAll is already providing some advice for circumventing the
>>> blockade; I don't know that this in turn won't cause more active policing
>>> against TOR and other measures.
>>>
>>>  In parallel, the discussions of the Internet Governance Caucus have
>>> turned to this issue. They were concerned with the new incarnation of the
>>> IBSA proposal, the proposal now called CIRP, pushed by the government of
>>> India, to which Sivasubramanian Muthusamy has already referred in this
>>> list.
>>>
>>>  The Twitter filtering in Pakistan puts the CIPR model to one more test
>>> and, IMO, it should have to be the final blow, as I don't think anyone
>>> believes that an organism like that would agree to force all member
>>> governments, and in consequence all governments, to Internet freedoms like
>>> not filtering a communication tool like Twitter in such a blunt way for a
>>> whole country.
>>>
>>>  Yours,
>>>
>>>  Alejandro Pisanty
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>>> *Desde:* chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org [
>>> chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] en nombre de Joly MacFie [
>>> joly at punkcast.com]
>>> *Enviado el:* domingo, 20 de mayo de 2012 10:05
>>> *Hasta:* President ISOC Cambodia
>>> *CC:* Asia-Pacific Chapters; Chapter Delegates
>>> *Asunto:* Re: [Chapter-delegates] Twitter officially banned in Pakistan
>>> - more to follow
>>>
>>>  Plenty of reaction on twitter:
>>> https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23pakistan<https://twitter.com/#%21/search/%23pakistan> and
>>> https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23twitterban<https://twitter.com/#%21/search/%23twitterban> including
>>> proxy info
>>>
>>>  While ISOC might hesitate as a body to issue an immediate policy
>>> statement, there is nothing to stop individual members or even chapters
>>> from joining in the chorus of criticism.
>>>
>>>  My initiial response was to refer back to the ISOC statement issued at
>>> the time of the Egyptian thing -  http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=1712 but
>>> that addresses specifically a general cutoff
>>>
>>>  One wonders how the ban is being enforced technically and  if it
>>> messes with standards such as DNSSEC.
>>>
>>>  j
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 10:20 AM, President ISOC Cambodia <
>>> president at isoc-kh.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Colleagues,
>>>>
>>>> I got this text down here from Fouad Bajwa. As many of you know, Fouad
>>>> Bajwa is a Member of a Global ISOC Facilities Committee and was recently
>>>> also at the Geneva meetings.
>>>>
>>>> Does ISOC Global, or the affected Regional Bureaus, have any procedures
>>>> or suggestions for such a case?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Norbert
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Twitter.com is used by the Civil Society and Citizens of Pakistan to
>>>> express their personal thoughts and opinions and the total blanket
>>>> shutdown of Twitter.com is a fundamental human right violation
>>>> preventing Pakistani Citizens both online and offline to express
>>>> themselves using the Internet through their personal computers and
>>>> mobile phone devices. Authorities are restricting access to
>>>> Twitter.com without consulting the citizens of Pakistan through
>>>> multistakeholder processes.
>>>>
>>>> STILL TWEETING THROUGH LINKEDIN.COM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  --
>>>> Norbert Klein, President, ISOC Cambodia Chapter
>>>>
>>>> Website: http://www.isoc-kh.org
>>>> eMail: president at isoc-kh.org
>>>>
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