[Chapter-delegates] Individual vs. Trustee (was Re: Net Neutrality)

[Alejandro Pisanty]

Hi,

a Trustee is bound by a number of duties like duty of care for the 
organization. He/she does not have the same freedoms as an individual 
member. Even we as chapter delegates already know this - we have to be 
careful when we pretend to speak in the name of our own chapter's members 
or do so individually, even in this list.

Because we delegates also have a duty of care for our own chapter as well 
as for ISOC as a whole.

The beauty of this thing is the interplay between the duties to find out 
all you can and keep as open a lens as possible with the duties of not 
sinking the ship by irreflexive action.

Kudos to Eric for his interacting with the community and opening up the 
problems.

And so as well to colleagues like Christian whose thoughts feed directly 
into the Bylaws discussion, from the concept down.

Yours,

Alejandro Pisanty

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On Fri, 1 Jun 2012, Grigori Saghyan wrote:

> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 07:33:15 -0500
> From: Grigori Saghyan <gregor at arminco.com>
> To: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Individual vs. Trustee (was Re: Net
>     	Neutrality)
> 
> Dear Eric,
> I think it is very interesting  position. You are trustee, because ISOC
> have decided, that you are one of the most qualified persons in the
> society and your opinion was announced before elections. In other words,
> today ISOC need your feedback on network neutrality. I think trustee is
> not an employee or administrative staff, this position is more political
> and, can say, decision makers position.
> With respect
> Grigori Saghyan
> ISOC.AM
> On 5/31/2012 2:47 PM, Eric Burger wrote:
>> When I speak as a Trustee, I must speak only with the accepted, agreed
>> to, vetted, and implemented position of the Internet Society.
>>
>> As Carlos said:
>> On May 30, 2012, at 10:30 AM, cveraq at gmail.com
>> <mailto:cveraq at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Internet Society as organization can and must have a voice. An
>>> official position. It must have an official channel and also an
>>> official section (editorial, official letter, etc) to express that
>>> vision or position. In this way no one should ask if this is or not an
>>> official position.
>>
>> I was making it clear that my statement is a personal statement and
>> is *not* *necessarily* the official position of the Internet Society. It
>> is also not to say that it differs from the official position of the
>> Society. It was simply stating what my personal opinion is. More
>> importantly, the disclaimer is to ensure that you knew that I was not
>> abusing my position as a Trustee to make it sound like an official
>> position of ISOC.
>>
>> One can think of lots of situations where a chapter member may have a
>> different point of view than an organization member which could be
>> different from an individual participant. As a chapter member, with my
>> Trustee hat off, I can advocate for the chapter position. However, as a
>> Trustee, I have to consider what is best for the Internet, and that
>> consideration on a particular topic may only be very good, instead of
>> excellent, for chapters.
>>
>> The alternative is for Trustees to not participate in any discussion
>> that may be misconstrued as an official statement of the Internet
>> Society. That would include most of the discussions here. In my opinion,
>> that would be a step backwards, since as a society we want to encourage
>> dialog, not have it strictly one-way.
>>
>> Thanks for asking!
>> --
>> - Eric
>>
>>
>> On May 30, 2012, at 8:42 AM, Klaus Birkenbihl wrote:
>>
>>> Eric, what do you mean by this: [speaking as a chapter member, not a
>>> Trustee]??? Do you have a different view as a (chapter) member than as
>>> a Trustee? What is your position as a Trustee? I mean, you should have
>>> one. Probably I'm not the only one who's curious.
>>
>>
>>
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