[Chapter-delegates] Invitation to Participate at the Campus Party in Berlin August 21-26

Wed Jul 25 09:12:36 PDT 2012

Dear Sivasubramanian, dear Alejandro,  

I concur with Alejandro in the sense that I believe ISOC should be careful who we partner with. CP is a great showcase and an excellent way of spreading the word about ISOC. However, CP has had some issues, at least in Mexico, that have left the impression that CP is not a company in "good standing". Proof of that is that we will not be having a CP in Mexico this year even though the the three consecutive precedent years it had been a very successful event.

What I want to say with this is that if we partner with someone who has this kind of precedents, ISOC's image may be harmed as a collateral damage for its partnership with CP.

Please don't read this as an definitive statement but, instead, as a concern aimed to preserve ISOC's good image. I think it has costed a lot to a lot of people and we should be very careful no to damage it.

All the best,

--  
León Felipe Sánchez Ambía
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El miércoles 25 de julio de 2012 a las 10:18, Sivasubramanian M escribió:

> Dear Alejandro,
> I share your concerns about possibly strong terms of business, However, Campus Party, as a successful Event Organization, might have so far dealt with Event Partners and such situations probably required strong, terms of business.   
> The reasons for Internet Society's interest is non-commercial, and as the Organization that is home to the Internet Community, there is so much that we could give than take from Campus Party. What is required is a discussion with the founders on our non-commercial intent and see if we could partner with them on terms acceptable to us. We could wait and see how this goes before we decide on what to do.
> Sivasubramanian M
> Internet Society India Chennai.
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> On Jul 25, 2012 6:27 PM, "Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch" <apisan at unam.mx (mailto:apisan at unam.mx)> wrote:
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> > Siva,
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> > that's the way Campus Party works - part of its magnet is high-caliber speakers and strong debates (as well as impromptu workshops past midnight on how to solder cooling pipes to hyperclocked CPU's heat sinks, etc.)
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> > CP often beats the capacity of ISOC chapters in engaging speakers because they actually have the money to ferry a few. One example is a panel with Vint Cerf and Tim Berners-Lee, moderated by Cory Doctorow, which took place here.  
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> > OTOH as I said there's a number of things to manage and chapters don't need to go overboard at the risk of sacrificing our own agendas and our members' intellectual property rights (CP's terms are draconian and I know people who have refused to sign)
> > Yours,
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> > Enviado el: miércoles, 25 de julio de 2012 00:57
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> > Hasta: Ted Mooney
> > CC: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org (mailto:chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org)
> > Asunto: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Invitation to Participate at the Campus Party in Berlin August 21-26
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> > Dear Ted Mooney,
> >
> > What immediately occurs to me is that this gathering of students would be fascinated by an opportunity to meet Jeff Moss, Dan Kaminsky, Bruce Schneier and others.  Internet Society could offer to reach out to (and fully fund the expenses of)  these experts who have a profound sense of balance.  I have 'dropped' three names to convey the idea, and I am sure that Chapters could come up with a hundred suggestion of names that are greatly admired by the next generation,  
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> > Be it a discussion on video cameras in school corridors and work places, or a discussion on Secure Social Networking, these experts with an understanding of the larger picture as well as the subtleties, could impart enormous value to the Campus Party, and create interest among students to take part in ISOC, ICANN At Large and IGF.
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> > Sponsoring Contests would be a good idea. If contests can be designed around a program similar to the one suggested above, it would produce definite results.
> >
> > Sivasubramanian M
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> > On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 1:05 AM, Ted Mooney <mooney at isoc.org (mailto:mooney at isoc.org)> wrote:
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> >> I understand Shiva.  Keeping in mind that this is a global organization of students, funding for even their own members and speakers is challenging. Nevertheless, there is, we believe, tremendous value in connecting with these self-professed ‘geeks’ and channeling their passion and desire for doing good in society at large to support the work of the Internet Society.  Their own website mentions the promotion of the accessible, secure Internet that supports innovation and social connection.   We’re looking to have action-focused conversations with gamers, hackers, apps developers, you name it. and infuse our work with their ideas for developing the future Internet.  
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> >> We’re also thinking of sponsoring some contests for them.  Videos about the internet or a socially responsible game for mobile phones or other app development.  What do you think?
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> >> Thanks very much for your interest and support.  There will be more information in the next 10 days or sooner.
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> >> Ted
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> >> Ted Mooney
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> >> From: Sivasubramanian M [mailto:isolatedn at gmail.com]  
> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:46 AM
> >> To: Ted Mooney
> >> Cc: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org (mailto:chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org)
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> >> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Invitation to Participate at the Campus Party in Berlin August 21-26
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> >> Ted,
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> >> This is an effective way for Chapters to connect Students in their countries to the Campus Party, perhaps encourage the local students to organize local events in their own countries and also expand their membership base with students.  
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> >> What is the nature of proposed arrangement with the Campus Party? Are they receptive to discuss the Event Agenda with ISOC and perhaps include topics related to Internet Governance / Youth Participation in Internet Governance? If the relationship is forged to be so strong, then it would indeed be worthwhile for Chapters to organize participation of Chapter Leaders as also encourage / offer funding / incentives to a few students to participate. However, Event Registration fee waiver alone does not help.  
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> >> Sivasubramanian M
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> >> ISOC India Chennai
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> >> http://isocindiachennai.org
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> >> On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 2:35 AM, Ted Mooney <mooney at isoc.org (mailto:mooney at isoc.org)> wrote:
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> >> Among the many on-going projects and partnerships to have emerged  from the Global INET is a growing relationship between the Internet Society  and Campus Party.  Some of you have been members of the Campus Party in your university days.  Founded over 16 years ago, Campus Party is organized for the purpose of harnessing the energy of university youth to advance technology for social good.  More about Campus Party  can be found at http://www.campus-party.org/What_is_it.html
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> >> The Internet Society and the Campus Party are exploring ways to work together around the globe to bring vitality to ISOC membership and bring direction for the future to their members, known as Campuseros.  This  positive and responsible-thinking global group wants to partner with ISOC and in particular ISOC Chapters in order to be involved in the key issues affecting the Internet. We are reviewing a Statement of Shared Principles document which we intend to sign in the near future and will encourage Campuseros to join the Internet Society and to join a local chapter.
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> >> Finally, this year's main Campus Party will be held in Berlin, August 21 - 26 and Campus Party has invited every ISOC Chapter to come and participate. One of our ISOC Chapter leaders and a former Campusero himself, Hans Peter Dittler will be speaking at one of the sessions and other ISOC participants will be joining discussion panels. We hope that all of you can take advantage of this incredible congregation of young technology explorers, their enthusiasm and their desire to make a progressive difference in society.   Campus Party leaders have told us they want to encourage all the Campuseros to join ISOC chapters where they can.  What a great infusion of new blood this could be for all of us.  Please, if you can, join The Internet Society Staff and Campus Party in Berlin!
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> >> Campus party has agreed to make 40 free registrations available for Chapter members who will attend this event.  No travel fellowships are available currently.  Nevertheless, this opportunity for outreach and participation is extraordinary and I encourage all to take every advantage we can of this new relationship and especially of this upcoming technology festival!.  
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> >> There will be a second email within two weeks with additional details of planned events and participation from various groups.  It would be our great pleasure to see 30 or 40 or more chapters represented at Campus Party.  There is much we will do together imagining the Future Internet.
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> >> Best regards,
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> >> Ted Mooney
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> >> Sr. Director, Membership & Services
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