[Chapter-delegates] Fwd: Re: Tracking ISOC issues
Daniel Stern
danielrstern at gmail.com
Thu Jan 26 18:46:35 PST 2012
Dear Norbert,
I say hear hear! Spoken as a true pioneer and a brother of the ISOC nobody
confrere.
Daniel
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:40 PM, President ISOC-KH
<president at isoc-kh.org>wrote:
> **
> Dear Ted,
>
> this is going to be a personal mail - but sent to this public forum.
>
> I appreciate that you started to respond personally. But I do not have the
> impression that you are addressing some problems at the level many of us
> are - not only feel - being affected.
>
> "There are many legitimate and important issues raised by the chapters.
> But they may be overshadowed by the way they are presented." Two points: 1)
> I think you write in your own language - many of us do not have this
> privilege; please bear with us how we present what is on our hearts. - 2) I
> know this argument - I hear it frequently when we speak about the
> inequalities of Internet access, in economic terms asking why it is so
> expensive here compared to neighboring countries, or even ask questions
> about administrative and legal restrictions, censorship and legal action
> against some people under severe duress for raising too many questions
> about the uneven application of law. - Probably you do not face such
> questions; maybe you did not have to face the court, or be physically
> threatened for asking questions, public communication related questions, as
> it happened in our context; but I would be happy to feel free, here, to ask
> without the admonition that my questions are "overshadowed by the way they
> are presented."
>
> Where to vent our common concerns if not it this common forum?
>
> "But while I hope to be the Chapter's best friend and advocate in the
> organization, that cannot happen when I and others are put on the
> defensive" you wrote. I think I can understand your feelings. But I am not
> sure you understand some of ours. It is not about being "on the defensive"
> (we are so often, when we struggle to do our work properly in our context).
> - We have to present our arguments and to try to argue it out publicly. Why
> not be on the defensive in a jointly shared, committed environment? - we
> all defend our positions - and some we have to change. For some it is more
> costly than for others.
>
> "I am looking to the future and cannot redress the perceived inequity of
> the past" - why not? I had shared a very practical question, and some
> colleagues contacted me in the meantime and said that this is important
> also for them. Should I let our Fellow go to Geneva without medical
> insurance (which so far I cannot find, and even if I find it, we probably
> do not know how to pay). Or just say: Well, this is a risk the poor have to
> bear, but not the rich among us? This is not only a problem for Cambodia -
> so sending us a special contribution does not help the many others that do
> not have international health insurance. What about you? You have health
> insurance, or you just can pay Geneva hospital rates from your own, if
> something should happen to you? We never know.
>
> "I'm willing to take both personal and professional risks" - thanks for
> joining many of us in this. Just a small sideline: Do you also pay your
> Internet access fees (it is said that the Cambodian ones are the highest in
> this region of the world), and the costs for driving around town (on the
> back of a motorcycle taxi, quite prone to accidents) for ISOC business,
> from your own pocket from your salary? Well, I have to do (though I have
> difficulty to do paid work since I took over the task of creating an ISOC
> chapter here, and I was talked into doing it or a second year, for
> "continuity at the start").
>
> As I said - my mail will turn out to be somewhat personal - but I think
> this is OK, as we are all personally committed to work - though ISOC - to a
> better human society where communication is open for everyone.
>
>
> Norbert Klein
> President
> ISOC Cambodia Chapter
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Chapter-delegates mailing list
> Chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
> https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates
>
>
--
Daniel Stern
+256 782 115363
+41 79 3426552
uconnect.org
MoMoKla.ug
hivecolab.com
Skype Daniel.Richard.Stern1
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/private/chapter-delegates/attachments/20120127/8a718769/attachment.htm>
More information about the Chapter-delegates
mailing list