[Chapter-delegates] English Wikipedia going dark tomorrow!

Mon Jan 16 22:45:19 PST 2012

Joly,

the statements are indeed pretty clear about the general principles against ill-advised technical measures and in particular against the DNS provisions of US SOPA. These as you know have been removed by the initiator of the law (according to the news.)

I don't see any clear guidance emerging directly from there that we in chapters outside the US can use for deciding whether we join the proposed blackout in a few hours.

To begin with: should we AT ALL intervene in a discussion of a law in a country that is not ours? Why, how, in what terms? If we do so in a way not coordinated with ISOC HQ are we helping or damaging the ISOC HQ in the US and their ability to weigh in on the process in a timely way? Are those who decide to participate out-of-control rogues or brave pioneers?

Yours,

Alejandro Pisanty

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Desde: joly.nyc at gmail.com [joly.nyc at gmail.com] en nombre de Joly MacFie [joly at punkcast.com]
Enviado el: martes, 17 de enero de 2012 00:26
Hasta: Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch
CC: President at isoc-au.org.au; ISOC Chapter Delegates; Raul Echeberria
Asunto: Re: [Chapter-delegates] English Wikipedia going dark tomorrow!

We have seen two statements from ISOC

Dec 13: http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=2764
Dec 5: http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=2732

It is true that both address the DNS provisions, but I think phrasing like the Dec 5 opening para:

The Internet Society has noted with concern a number of U.S. legislative proposals that would mandate DNS blocking and filtering by ISPs in order to protect the interests of copyright holders. We agree with proponents of the Protect-IP Act (PIPA) and Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) that combating illegal online activities is a very important public policy objective. However, policies that are enacted to achieve this goal must not undermine the viability of the Internet as a globally reachable platform. After close examination and consultation with the Internet community, we do not believe that the current U.S. legislative proposals are consistent with these basic principles.

is fairly unambiguous.

joly

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:17 AM, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch <apisan at unam.mx<mailto:apisan at unam.mx>> wrote:
Dear Narelle,

this may sound unpleasant to you but... you are a Tustee, we are humble volunteers disconnected from the general strategy of ISOC.

Many of us are under pressure from Chapter members and others in our local communities to join the protest and are seen as sitting on our hands upon a block of dry ice because we are waiting for guidance from HQ.

IF the Board of Trustees is not discussing the matter as urgent - and being a former Trustee I know this can happen - and IF nobody else at "the top" has a word about the general strategy of ISOC for these fast-happening reactions, can we understand that each chapter is free to react, and will not cause even a frown from the PR apparatus of ISOC?

You may find further guidance in the word of our Chair, Raul Echeberria, in http://mexico.cnn.com/videos/2012/01/13/el-contenido-de-la-ley-sopa. No mention of ISOC is made, though, and he appears only as CEO of LACNIC (in Spanish).

I'm really really sorry if I appear as a nuisance. There's just an urgency to make decisions - joining the blackout is less than 24 hours away for some like... you!

Yours,

Alejandro Pisanty

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Enviado el: lunes, 16 de enero de 2012 23:56
Hasta: ISOC Chapter Delegates
Asunto: [Chapter-delegates] English Wikipedia  going dark tomorrow!

This looks like a strong protest!

Thoughts anyone?

To: English Wikipedia Readers and Community
From: Sue Gardner, Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director
Date: January 16, 2012
Today, the Wikipedia community announced its decision to black out the
English-language Wikipedia for 24 hours, worldwide, beginning at 05:00 UTC
on Wednesday, January 18 (you can read the statement from the Wikimedia
Foundation here). The blackout is a protest against proposed legislation
in the United States—the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) in the U.S. House
of Representatives, and the PROTECTIP Act (PIPA) in the U.S. Senate—that,
if passed, would seriously damage the free and open Internet, including
Wikipedia.

This will be the first time the English Wikipedia has ever staged a public
protest of this nature, and it’s a decision that wasn’t lightly made.
etc at
http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/English_Wikipedia_anti-SOPA_blackout

More info on SOPA:
Try our Harvard colleague (Jonathan Zittrain and BoT member) who is
actively working on this topic:
http://futureoftheinternet.org/sopa-compromise

and him on Colbert talking about it:
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111202/09361816954/colbert-takes-sopa.shtml

Cheers

N

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