[Chapter-delegates] Does your Chapter want to be a remote hub for the Global INET?

[Grigori Saghyan]

Dear All,
I think, all ISOC chapters are under regulation of their local
governments.Any ISOC chapter is able to  implement ISOC principles, if
these principles are not in conflict with local law. IMHO it is very
important to describe the term "affiliation",  "association" looks not
such strong.

On 2/23/2012 11:47 PM, Veni Markovski wrote:
> Independant is a strong word, if you look at their quasi governmental
> status, if I remember correctly. 
> 
> On Thursday, February 23, 2012, Joly MacFie wrote:
> 
>     It's not a Chapter. It's an independent Society. In a sovereign
>     nation.  
> 
>     j
> 
>     On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:55 PM, John More <morej1 at mac.com
>     <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'morej1 at mac.com');>> wrote:
> 
>         To the contrary.  They use the ISOC name.  Why should this
>         chapter get a pass just because it is in China?  Read the
>         requirements of ISOC's affiliation agreement for Chapters. If
>         you do not stand for ISOC's principles, your usurpation of the
>         name needs to be pointed out and those responsible need to work
>         with the offedning body to encourage compliance.  What they do
>         that is good should be applauded? 
> 
>         John More
>         Greater Washington Dc Chapter
> 
>         On Feb 23, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Joly MacFie wrote:
> 
>>         Sorry to be contrary but...
>>
>>         It's always been widely known,at least within ISOC, that the
>>         Internet Society of China is a non-aligned body with regard to
>>         the Global Internet Society. They have expressed in the past
>>         the imperatives, which we may or may not understand or
>>         validate, that make them choose this path.
>>
>>         That said, engagement is good. We have, some years back,
>>         hosted their representatives in NYC. They were politely
>>         interested in what we had to say, as indeed were we the other
>>         way.  Not everything they do is bad, by any means.
>>
>>         It really smacks of hubris for us to tell them what they can
>>         call themselves or, because of pique, not welcome them to
>>         engage to the best of our ability. Such actions can only play
>>         to the rationale of those that wish to replace the open
>>         multistakeholder model with a top-down treaty based regime
>>         like the ITU.
>>
>>
>>         j
>>
>>
>>
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> 
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> Best,
> Veni
> 
> == Sent from my iPhone, so sorry for any spelling mistakes, caused by
> the screen keyboard.
> 
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