[Chapter-delegates] Weekly European Regional Bureau Newsletter: EU Overview

[Eduard Tric]

Dear Josef ,
Isoc Eu coordination in this matter will pe paramount for 2013.
Romania's position was also clear.
Regards,
Ed

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De la: "JotHal" <jozef.halbersztadt at gmail.com>
Către: "Veni Markovski" <veni at veni.com>
cc: "Kiessling Lia" <kiessling at isoc.org>, "Delegates Chapter" <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
Trimis: luni, 17 decembrie, 2012 13:06:09
Subiect: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Weekly European Regional Bureau Newsletter: EU Overview

The crux of the matter is what we are doing next.

Polish minister Michal Boni said: "I would like to bring the revised
text of ITRs to Poland and in open and collaborative environment
discuss its implications with the Polish public opinion."

And earlier: "We have not only a mandate from my government but also a
strong mandate from the Polish society. Because of this we cannot
accept the current text of ITR."

At government website one can read that Poland is not going to sign.


Jozef Halbersztadt
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2012/12/17 Veni Markovski <veni at veni.com>:
>
> Well, we'll see soon.
> Perhals not many know that each country can join by Jan. 1st, 2015.
>  Some have said they will do so.
>
>  I just wanted everyone not to get overexcited about the numbers. Plus, you
> can withdraw signature, only if you've placed it. The countries which didn't
> sign the updated ITRs are still subject to the old ones.
>
> So, overall, numbers matter, but time matters too.
>
> On Monday, December 17, 2012, Holly Raiche wrote:
>>
>> Sorry Veni - but Frederic was correct.  The 55 withdrew their support for
>> the changes - and time will not make any difference. While some of the
>> changes to the ITRs were accepted, there were some fundamental issues,
>> including about coverage of the ITRs, about the charging regime, about rules
>> dealing with content, etc.  The EU position did go beyond the issue of
>> rights, to the others mentioned by Frederic and listed in final statements
>> of the 55 countries.
>>
>> Holly
>>
>>
>> On 17/12/2012, at 9:20 PM, Veni Markovski wrote:
>>
>> Good points.
>> Happy for edri (Isoc.bg is a founding member) - everyone should sign for
>> the by-weekly bulletin it producers.
>>
>> On the WCIT - the 55 countries did not withdraw their support, they just
>> need more time to decide, and only a few declared they will not sign the
>> ITRs. The EU opposition was that the ITRs introduce rights for member
>> states, and this is the fundamental problem with the EU laws, where rights
>> belong to people only.
>>
>> On Monday, December 17, 2012, Frederic Donck wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear All
>>>
>>> Please find attached the EU Newsletter for this week (Word doc/PDF).
>>> !!! Also, please note that this newsletter is now being published on the
>>> European Bureau page here: https://www.internetsociety.org/europe !!!
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best,
>> Veni
>>
>> == Sent from my phone, so any spelling mistakes are caused by the
>> touchscreen keyboard. That's a nice excuse, isn't it;-)
>>
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>
> --
> Best,
> Veni
>
> == Sent from my phone, so any spelling mistakes are caused by the
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