[Chapter-delegates] [Bod] The Internet and Human Rights

David Solomonoff president at isoc-ny.org
Mon Sep 26 15:37:35 PDT 2011


Following Joly here - my thought was that this could be a good test 
environment for things like the Freedom Box, mesh networking, etc.

The protesters are actually doing some software development now - I need 
to meet with them and get a better handle on what is already in place 
and what might be needed.

My original post was sent to two organizations as well as an number of 
friends who are unaffiliated. If this is outside the ISOC mission, 
people who are sympathetic to this cause might want to get involved 
independently.

On 9/26/11 2:20 PM, Joly MacFie wrote:
> Hi Eric,
>
> ISOC-NY's consensus would no doubt be to support protecting the 
> public's right to anonymously and privately communicate. We have a 
> track record of supporting such values, probably more than any other 
> chapter.
>
> You may have in mind the 2009 case where a NYC resident was arrested 
> for tweeting details of Cleveland poilce movements to protesters.
> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/05/nyregion/05txt.html
>
> I would here refer to "Clark Doctrine" that activity on the Internet 
> should not be treated any differently than activity off.
>
> j
>
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Eric Burger 
> <eburger at standardstrack.com <mailto:eburger at standardstrack.com>> wrote:
>
>     Are you suggesting that ISOC provide aid and assistance to law
>     enforcement? In this case, the U.S. government is posting its
>     information for everyone to see, including Occupy Wall Street
>     "members." Are you suggesting we should tell the U.S. government
>     to be less transparent?
>
>     I would offer that ISOC as a whole must not get directly involved
>     with such a move, as one country's law enforcement is often
>     another country's repressive regime. We cannot side with one
>     government over another.
>
>     While ISOC as a whole should not get involved with such a case, I
>     would offer it may be appropriate for local Chapters to get
>     involved with incidents of interest, and ask for global help as
>     needed.
>
>     As for this incident, would the consensus at ISOC-NY be to help
>     the local police monitor Internet traffic and try to help prevent
>     violent confrontation, or for ISOC-NY to help the protesters
>     securely communicate their plans so as to be invisible to the
>     local police? Could ISOC-NY come to a consensus?
>
>
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