[Chapter-delegates] About Internet Everywhere (was On visual identity of FB pages)

[Thomas Lowenhaupt]

Joly,

I was thinking about a picture of Vint Cerf with a T-shirt saying 
something like - IP everywhere. But my recollection might be incorrect.

My point though is the I'd hate to see the ISOC fall into a role as 
TCP/IP promoter/defender, rather a thoughtful "society" that advocates 
for its development in responsible ways. I realize that it's hard to do 
so when 99% of the day is required to explain thoughtless proposals by 
people in power that would damage it by.  But the thought has been on my 
mind for some time and I thought I'd put it out there for consideration 
during such time as its advancement might be practicable.

Tom

On 11/25/2011 2:16 PM, Joly MacFie wrote:
> Hi Tom,
>
> Concerns were raised by Vint Cerf, who originally coined the 
> expression - the informal credo of the Internet Society, back in 1999 
> http://www.isoc.org/isoc/media/speeches/foreveryone.shtml and codified 
> in 2002 in RFC3271 http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3271.txt.
>
>  My comment on your "nuclear" question I would point out that the 
> expression is _not_ "The Internet is for everything".
>
> j
>
> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 12:58 AM, Thomas Lowenhaupt 
> <toml at communisphere.com <mailto:toml at communisphere.com>> wrote:
>
>     Joly,
>
>     Let me begin by saying that I missed the start of the discussion
>     to which to responded below. But it seems close enough to an issue
>     I've had on my mind for some time and I thought I'd comment,
>     possibly forcing an inappropriate connection. But here goes...
>
>     I'm not sure I'm 100% with "The Internet is for everyone". It
>     reminds me of Internet everywhere. And it/they sound a bit like
>     the positions organizations like AAA (American Automobile
>     Association) and NRA take, in essence, cars and guns everywhere.
>
>     To my mind, there are better and worse uses of cars and guns and
>     the Internet. And I think the ISOC should weight in here. For
>     example, I think there is certain infrastructure I'd like to be
>     offline, e.g., nuclear bombs and plants.
>
>     Is there a limit to the Net? Does / should ISOC take a position here?
>
>     Tom Lowenhaupt
>
>
>
>     On 11/23/2011 2:57 PM, Joly MacFie wrote:
>>
>>
>>     On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 4:18 AM, Peter Koch <pk at isoc.de
>>     <mailto:pk at isoc.de>> wrote:
>>
>>         I'm flabbergasted by Internet Society
>>         people jumping the bandwaggon into a walled garden.
>>
>>     "The Internet is for everyone" means even walled gardens.
>>
>>     j
>>
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