[Chapter-delegates] Law & Contents control / Ecuador

cveraq at gmail.com cveraq at gmail.com
Wed Jul 27 03:12:20 PDT 2011


Dear Alex and all: I believe that the common and different think at the same time is the arena of discussion! This is not tech or about principles but political. We as users and organizations working for digital inclusion, free speech and civil liberties, would oppose to any proposal about  previous censorship or free speech restriction of course. But we agree that everyone, no matter in which media publish their opinion, news, notes, on any kind's content must be responsible about that AND the site owner, ISP or content provider must be able to disable any content that infringe any right, law or principle. Those 3rd parts can not be responsible for other's content example comments from news paper's reader, blog's owners and so, of course except when they do not provide measures to disable some content or space offensive or illegal  under local laws or principles once demanded to do that. The media can, as always, denied the measure to disable some content when requested but then they will be responsible also for the content, even if they do not own it, and faces some legal consequences.. 

The very fine line about what and what not is illegal and offensive is under discussion but must be a wide consensus about big issues like racism, discrimination, child pornography,

In my personal opinion any content must be legal no matter which media you use to disseminate it. You can not say it's illegal child pornography on Internet but not on DVD's or printed magazines or vice verse  

We are placing a close look to the development of this law proposal in order to ensure it will not be against civil
liberties so please I call to all of you friends and colleagues to send us your opinions and warnings, so we can see from inside as you do from outside. Do not forget that we are now in the middle of the forest and maybe can not see the trees!

Carlos



 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Alejandro Pisanty <apisan at servidor.unam.mx>
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 05:20:10 
To: Carlos Vera<cveraq at gmail.com>
Cc: Freddy Linares Torres<freddylinares at gmail.com>; Chapter Delegates<Chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Law & Contents control / Ecuador

Carlos,

like Joly, I'd ask you what is in common and what not between this 
proposed law and others worldwide.

Alejandro Pisanty


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On Tue, 26 Jul 2011, Carlos Vera wrote:

> Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 22:52:04 -0500
> From: Carlos Vera <cveraq at gmail.com>
> To: Freddy Linares Torres <freddylinares at gmail.com>
> Cc: Chapter Delegates <Chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Law & Contents control / Ecuador
> 
> Freddy and all: Now in Ecuador, the parliament is discussing a new
> communication law. It´s said for some sectors that the proposed text is
> trying to control free speech in any technological platform. In my opinion
> this is not exact.
>
> Most main content providers has policies or self regulation or laws that
> work for them in issues such as the publication of some content that
> infringe laws or Intellectual property or have some words not permitted..
> they use to ban this kind of content using filters for such words or putting
> down some content (videos, pictures, words, etc) after some claim. For
> example we can have youtube not showing some videos in certain countries...
> or yahoo banning some words (like verga in spanish or fuck for example)
> automatically or manually under some advice or report. The same with
> facebook for example or google..
>
> So this kind of regulations works in this way.. and it is necessary to have
> some way to law enforce the right of users or authorities so content
> providers  and infrastructure providers have the way to follow the law under
> certain circumstances.. so you have the way to control not maybe what people
> publish but what you maintain published after a warning..
>
> No matter what, this is a political discussion with some people in one side
> and other people in the other so we need to understand how this works and
> that this exists already in most legislation all around the world.
>
> Carlos
>
> El 26 de julio de 2011 19:54, Freddy Linares Torres <freddylinares at gmail.com
>> escribió:
>
>> Perhaps Carlos could give us more information.
>>
>> http://www.radiosucre.com.ec/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=16203:ley-de-medios-incluye-control-de-contenido-que-se-publica-en-internet&catid=1:politica&Itemid=24
>>
>> Saludos,
>>
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