[Chapter-delegates] Lybian Internet Outage

[David Solomonoff]

As long as there is a network, the outside world can be reached via a 
delay tolerant protocol such as the one the Interplanetary Internet 
project is developing:

> While the Earth's Internet is basically a "network of connected 
> networks", the Interplanetary Internet may therefore be thought of as 
> a "network of disconnected Internets". Inter-working in this 
> environment will require new techniques to be developed.
>
> Many elements of the current terrestrial Internet suite of protocols 
> are expected to be useful in low-delay space environments, such as 
> local operations on and around other planets or within free flying 
> space vehicles. However, the speed-of-light delays, intermittent and 
> unidirectional connectivity, and error-rates characteristic of 
> deep-space communication make their use unfeasible across deep-space 
> distances.
>
> It is also anticipated that the architecture and protocols developed 
> by this project will be useful in many terrestrial environments in 
> which a dependence on real-time interactive communication is either 
> unfeasible or inadvisable.
http://www.ipnsig.org/

Joly MacFie wrote:
> In the Students Free for Free Culture Conf that I streamed today
> naturally these topics came up, especially during Susan Crawford &
> diaspora segments.  I will post vid later, although some can be seen
> via the chapters livestream channel.
> hrttp://livestream.com/internetsocietychapters
>
> On the Kill Switch Susan's response was that the President already has
> wide ranging emergency powers, and the proposed legislation, if not
> moot, is a red herring.
>
> The students showed a growing awareness of,  a good deal of enthusiasm
> for, and reported some progress on, mesh networking. They wondered
> whether diaspora , or the new freedom box initiative, could provide a
> working framework for same..Obviously this might still be cut off from
> the outside world, but it would at least be independent of central
> switches - now becoming plainly desirable.
>
> j
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Franck Martin <franck at avonsys.com> wrote:
>   
>> All these events prompted the Lieberman "kill switch" US bill to be reworded to put crystal clear that the US president cannot switch off the Internet.
>>
>> It is progress but more work to be done...
>>
>>
>> Franck Martin
>> http://www.avonsys.com/
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>> http://www.linkedin.com/company/avonsys
>> twitter: FranckMartin Avonsys
>>
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Veni Markovski" <veni at veni.com>
>> To: "Sivasubramanian M" <isolatedn at gmail.com>, "Franck Martin" <franck at avonsys.com>, chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
>> Sent: Sunday, 20 February, 2011 2:38:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Lybian Internet Outage
>>
>> Siva,
>> Any government can do it, where there's not enough liberal legal
>> framework, or enough private Internet service providers. And they can
>> do it as much as they want. But I don't expect something like that to
>> happen in majority of countries. We'll see also how this will
>> influence the debate on Internet governance - remember that one of the
>> arguments of the proponents for more governmental control was that the
>> Internet will be "more secure".
>>
>> I wonder also if ISOC should not come with some strong language
>> statement "in principle" about the need for freedom of the Internet.
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Veni
>> http://www.veni.com
>> (via blackberry)
>>
>>
>> On 2/19/11, Sivasubramanian M <isolatedn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>     
>>> Good to know. But what really happened? Was this an instance of a
>>> Government shutting down the Internet, or was it a politically
>>> insignificant outage that was restored after a short time?
>>>
>>> If Libya can do it for half a day, it can do it indefinitely; If Libya
>>> can do it, most of the rest of the world can do it.
>>>
>>> Sivasubramanian M
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 11:31 PM, Veni Markovski <veni at veni.com> wrote:
>>>       
>>>> They're back online.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Veni
>>>> http://www.veni.com
>>>> (via blackberry)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/19/11, Sivasubramanian M <isolatedn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> This is quite upsetting.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sivasubramanian M
>>>>> http://isolatednetwork.com
>>>>> facebook: http://is.gd/x8Sh
>>>>> LinkedIn: http://is.gd/x8U6
>>>>> Twitter: http://is.gd/x8Vz
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Franck Martin <franck at avonsys.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>           
>>>>>> http://www.renesys.com/blog/2011/02/libyan-disconnect-1.shtml
>>>>>> http://www.monkey.org/~labovit/libya_pulls_plug.png
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Franck Martin
>>>>>> http://www.avonsys.com/
>>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/Avonsys
>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/company/avonsys
>>>>>> twitter: FranckMartin Avonsys
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Check your domain reputation: http://gurl.im/b69d4o
>>>>>> Application Monitoring: http://gurl.im/4d39Gu
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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