[Chapter-delegates] Call for action : Securing internetsociety sites ( Re: Fwd: Our New Site Has Launched )

[Eduard Tric]

Klaus's point of view make sense, too. They tried to raise in a diplomatic way  a very annoying issue.

To resume a bit:
"Isoc" brand seems to become suddenly  unattractive due to several reasons. 
We can debate a posteriori about the relevance of those reasons , but now it's a fact : we do have internetsociety as a brand and global site.

Where do we go (as chapters) from here ?
I will not speak about the issues already raised (broken links , URI , standards), but try to come with a practical one: 
    - Almost every chapter made an investment in their website as isoc.** . In order to make a succesful transition, some measures wee needed before the transition. 
    A minimum would have been to secure the new URL's. 
    Now it's to late for some countries. Legitimate users or Squatters are already there.
    For example , Germany is taken.  France is Taken, too. Most of internetsociety.** CCTLD's are still free , thus squattable big time. 
    I would be VERY angry if someone will take internetsociety.ro ( .ro is free, anyone can register ).
           
Last but not least , an incentive like country.internetsociety.org given to each and every national chapter would be nice to have.
The practical question is : Who is in charge of securing the internetsociety.** sites ?? HQ ? Chapters? Nobody? What about the planning ? 
In some countries we need to show the trademark so it will take time. 
For countries where is free to register a cctld , i would start now. 
In fact , i will stop writing and start registering internetsociety.ro , but what about the other countries ??? 
How do we solve France and Germany situation ? 
It would be messy to have isoc.** in some countries and internetsociety.** in others. New users would not understand. 

Regards,
Ed

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From: "Joly MacFie" <joly at punkcast.com>
To: "Klaus Birkenbihl" <Klaus.Birkenbihl at isoc.de>
Cc: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 9:47:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Fwd: Our New Site Has Launched


I will say, in Lia's defense, that this policy - the longer url - was to my knowledge instituted well before she got here. The thinking no doubt being, that branding is important, and unity of branding reinforces that. You try setting up a google alert on ISOC and I can tell you that you get a lot of Islamic Societies and very very few Internet ones. There are many more unfamiliar people than familiar and, I suspect, it is those that the change is aimed at. Using "pretty" explanatory permalinks to aid comprehension and recollection is established practice. Previously, and I would imagine this will continue, one has the choice to abbreviate if one wishes. Does not take any effort and there's no need to change links elsewhere. 


j 


On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Klaus Birkenbihl < Klaus.Birkenbihl at isoc.de > wrote: 



On the other hand I bet you discussed the domain/URI issue 
internally and IMHO obviously took a wrong decision. 
Frankly, I wonder if its so easy to fix and I wonder if you read the 
article of Tim Berners-Lee on cool URIs that should not change. You 
applied kind of a surgery to the Web by cutting out an important 
part ( www.isoc.org ) and replacing it by another one 
( www.internetsociety.org ). Now all other parts of the Web that 
were connected to ( www.isoc.org ) have find their way to the 
new adress. Takes time, effort that's not yours, some will get 
lost, but over time it will be surely mended. 



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