[Chapter-delegates] Affiliation Agreement - remarks from ISOC.DE

[Anne Lord]

[Apologies for the cross posting]

Dear Hans Peter,

Just a short note to acknowledge and say 'thank you' to the Board of  
the German Chapter for the feedback expressed below. This will be  
provided to the chapter task-force for their consideration.

Best wishes
Anne
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On 12/10/2010, at 10:37 PM, Hans Peter Dittler wrote:

> Dear Anne,
> dear all,
>
> sorry for the long delay, here comes finally our list of remarks for  
> the
> draft affiliation statement:
>
> after some longer internal considerations and discussions, we have  
> seen the
> following topics as potential obstacles in further processing and  
> signing
> the affiliation statement from ISOC.DE:
>
> - We feel that the statements are biased in favor of ISOC global.  
> Going
> along somewhat the positions listed by Christopher Wilkinson we feel  
> that
> chapters should be clearly positioned and acknowledged in their role  
> as part
> of ISOC somewhere more prominently in the ISOC bylaws to  
> counterweight the
> requirements expected from chapters listed here.
>
> - There are several clauses "the Chapter shall" which list exactly  
> what is
> expected from a chapter. Would it not be better to also augment the  
> "The
> Internet Society shall:" part with "support the chapters financing  
> local
> efforts", "support the chapters in financing and organizing their  
> local
> offices", "organizing local events together with chapters", "help  
> chapters
> to define a common position on local and/or regional Internet related
> topics" and similar issues?
>
> - The fixed Percentage of membership increase is not one of our  
> primary
> ISOC.DE goals. Even if we do not use our potential for the time being,
> insisting on a fixed rate seems to be not acceptable for our chapter.
>
> - Why is there a special termination clause needed from the global  
> side
> ("The Internet Society may terminate this Agreement if the Chapter  
> fails to
> meet all of the minimum performance standards ...") - is it not  
> enough to
> use simply the other clause "Either party may terminate this  
> Agreement for
> any reason  at any time by providing ninety (90) days written notice  
> to the
> other party."  and listing only some reasons for ISOC to terminate?
>
> - We cannot find a way how a contract signed by us (as leader of a  
> German
> Verein) can bind us to the future decisions of an yet undefined  
> group of
> people as defined in "a group that consists of Internet Society staff
> members and representatives from the chapter community" - who  
> selects those
> and who controls?
>
> - It must be made clear, that even if this agreement is terminated,  
> the
> entity, for example in our case the "Germany  Chapter", still exists  
> and
> continues to exist while losing all its "ISOC-privileges". A locally
> incorporated "Verein" cannot cease to exist by an external contract  
> or the
> termination of it.
>
>
> Hans Peter Dittler
> Member of the board
> ISOC.DE
> Internet Society German Chapter e.V.
>
>
>
>
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