[Chapter-delegates] How can ISOC chapters help in the development of IP-based networks?

[Alejandro Pisanty]

Hi,

there are no ITU representatives. There are people in governments, as well 
as companies, who are representatives to the ITU. Some of them do become 
standard-bearers for the ITU. Some, in turn among these, tend to have 
their eyes and ears close to the Internet. Telecommunications policy and 
business are different.

That said, we can understand the ITU better.

When the ITU starts a project in a country it has allies in the country. 
some of these projects are good and some even go beyond extending 
infrastructure and training for telecommunications and allow Internet 
access and use. This is not always intentional.

Some projects are like setting up training in developing countries. Some 
of these are supported by Cisco. Many academic communities don't agree 
with them because they put aside some fundamental knowledge and are too 
much oriented to the company's product. We have discussed this with Fred 
Baker and others in Cisco over the years. The participation of companies 
like Cisco in both the Internet and the telecommunications field creates 
some confusion.

Our work must be for the growth of the Internet - take it to everyone 
possible, make it usable, make it used. We have to care about standards, 
interoperability, openness, access to information and to all (legal) 
resources available over the Internet. We have to try to avoid or stop 
misguided policies and programs which try to regulate and limit technology 
when they are trying to regulate people's conduct.

If part or all of an ITU-driven project fits into these goals, fine. We 
are not in a fight with the ITU. What we care about is the Internet.

Yours,

Alejandro Pisanty


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On Thu, 16 Dec 2010, Grigori Saghyan wrote:

> Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 01:21:27 +0500
> From: Grigori Saghyan <gregor at arminco.com>
> To: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] How can ISOC chapters help in the development
>      of IP-based networks?
> 
> Dear All,
> fully support Veni's suggestion.
> It is very hard process, in each country ITU representative is a governmental 
> organization.
> They have serious problem - they do not have qualified staff, even more, they 
> do not have anybody, who is able to understand modern challenges.
> In this situation any normal suggestion from local ISOC chapter can be very 
> important for government, they need any  feedback from ISOC.
> Let me ask once more - let us prepare suggestions, recommendations  for local 
> ITU representatives. Without such recommendations ISOC policy is a criticism 
> without suggestions.
> With respect,
> Grigori Saghyan
> ISOC.AM
>
>
>
>
>
> On 15.12.2010 18:19, Veni Markovski wrote:
>> Hi.
>> 
>> Changing the subject, I'd like to draw everyone's attention to a vital part 
>> of the ITU Plenipot 2010 resolutions, the words "including, but not limited 
>> to".
>> 
>> The Internet-related resolutions resolved that the ITU should
>> 
>> 1. explore ways and means for greater collaboration and coordination 
>> between ITU and
>> relevant organizations* involved in the development of IP-based networks 
>> and the future Internet,
>> through cooperation agreements, as appropriate, in order to increase the 
>> role of ITU in Internet
>> governance so as to ensure maximum benefits to the global community
>> 
>> * Including, but not limited to ICANN, the RIRs, the IETF, ISOC and W3C, on 
>> the basis of reciprocity
>> basis.
>> 
>> Now, my suggestion for the chapters is to see which one of you can get 
>> involved in the work the ITU does, as the resolution calls for the ITU to 
>> engage through cooperation agreements, etc., and since the words only name 
>> some of the organizations, it does not exclude the others, quite the 
>> contrary - it includes them. If any chapter has the capacity to work in the 
>> areas, covered by Resolution 101, 102, 133, then it should approach the ITU 
>> - via its regional offices, or via the national representative (usually 
>> Ministry of Communications), and see what you could do to promote the 
>> development of IP-based networks.
>> 
>> best,
>> Veni
>> 
>> On 12/15/2010 03:16, Patrick Vande Walle wrote:
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