[Chapter-delegates] PIR and wikileaks.ORG

Jon Zittrain zittrain at cyber.law.harvard.edu
Sat Dec 4 12:04:57 PST 2010


If I'm keeping the examples straight, that's where the USG "seized" 
the domain name, e.g. 
<http://mashable.com/2010/11/26/torrent-finder/>.  I think GoDaddy 
the registrar has denied any involvement, which makes the Verisign 
registry the only other party (aside from torrent-finder itself) able 
to point the DNS servers to "seizedservers.com"!

    Domain Name: TORRENT-FINDER.COM
    Registrar: GODADDY.COM, INC.
    Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
    Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
    Name Server: NS1.SEIZEDSERVERS.COM
    Name Server: NS2.SEIZEDSERVERS.COM

Hard to believe ICANN had anything to do with it.

So that's a very different example from wikileaks.org -- one that 
does represent power over a bottleneck, here the registry.

At GMT-4 02:45 PM 12/4/2010, Marcin Cieslak wrote:
>On Sat, 4 Dec 2010, Jon Zittrain wrote:
>
>>Thanks, Peter, Marcin and Desiree -- from the sound of it, then, 
>>this has absolutely nothing to do with ICANN, PIR, Afilias, or 
>>Dynadot.  Wikileaks elected to use a nameserver that isn't working 
>>(at least for them) anymore; they can choose a new one whenever 
>>they want.  It has nothing to do with the bottlenecks found within 
>>the canonical DNS system.  Indeed, the DNS system is designed to 
>>let them fix problems like this as it comes up, and I gather 
>>there's no reason for EveryDNS to have a contract with anyone in 
>>the ICANN hierarchy and below.  It's just pointed to the way that a 
>>site at an IP address is pointed to by a domain name.  If a Web 
>>server at www.site.org goes down, and thus we type www.site.org and 
>>get nothing back, we don't blame ICANN and friends for the problem 
>>-- they have nothing to do with it.  ...JZ
>
>I have a question about the "torrent-finder.com" - do you think this 
>one qualifies
>as the "bottleneck withing the DNS system"?
>
>(Not saying that ICANN was involved in any way here)
>
>//Marcin
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