[Chapter-delegates] Statement on Open Internet proposal fromGoogle and Verizon

[Fred Baker]

It would help me to understand what Christian is asking the IETF to do, and what specifically he might be calling the "edge". IETF protocols are not limited to one or another networking domain, and many of them are in fact used at what I call "the edge", which is to say any network that is not a transit network. In my case, residential broadband, my upstreams are my company via a VPN and my service provider (a Cable Modem carrier in the US) directly, and my home network is the network at the "edge". I could use BGP in it, but don't have any real reason to and my upstreams won't talk with me. My company uses EIGRP internally and therefore my home office participates in that. What other protocols did he have in mind that don't run on my laptop?



On Aug 13, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Joly MacFie wrote:

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> These are good questions raised by Christian on Dave Farber's IP list:
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> From:  Christian de Larrinaga
> Date: August 13, 2010 
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> DiffServ and MPLS may or may not be a good thing but if a user is unable to configure and control their network end to end then the control plane is moving into the network. Much of the network is dark to users due to secret or at best opaque peering and transit relationships. 
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> For that reason alone users are turning to regulators to address the balance. 
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> In light of this I do think it worth asking if Google is still a typical user? and if the IETF might extend the control plane of its protocols to the edge?
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> Christian
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> Christian de Larrinaga
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> On 12 Aug 2010,  Richard Shockey wrote.. 
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> First .. packet discrimination or application specific packet discrimination of IP networks is a integral part of the Internet Protocol suite and has been since nearly its inception.  First was Differentiated Services or difserv RFC 2474 RFC 2475 etal or wikipedia for details.  Recently the IETF and our cousins at the ITU  has spent huge amounts of brain power defining the architecture of MPLS or Multi Protocol Label Switching for IP which is rapidly ( along with Ethernet) becoming the core of global carrier networks.  Look it up. This is a good thing.  IP has won now us poor engineering grunts have to make it work.  
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