[Chapter-delegates] [Isoc-ph-members] The Future Internet

[Fred Baker]

Since "Internet" is a proper name, I capitalize it.

On May 19, 2009, at 7:55 PM, Charity Gamboa wrote:

> Wyn: P.S.  trivium: the ITU insists on spelling "internet" with a  
> small "i",
> as if to indicate that it's just one of its (assumed) functions like
> "post", "telegraph" and "telephone".  Which is why i always make it a
> point to spell Internet with a capital "I". :)
>
> I have to admit ignorance in this case with regards to the use of  
> the big "I" and small "i" in the word "I-N-T-E-R-N-E-T."  Although I  
> am aware that it is the IETF who is directly responsible for  
> Internet standards, should the IETF insist more on this than ITU?
>
> If I confuse spelling the Internet with a small "i" and a big "I,"  
> does it make a whole lot of difference of my understanding of the  
> INTERNET? I have seen and read in the past how some people write the  
> word with either a small "I" or a big "I."  I thought it was just  
> some typo.  If people confuse themselves in the use of  the big and  
> small "I," maybe it's the same way people use "Xerox" to pertain to  
> a photocopying ("Let's xerox the notes."); or "Kleenex" to pertain  
> to "tissue;" or "Coke" to a cola or "band-aid" pertaining to  
> bandage. Perhaps we may be also "genericizing" the words "Internet"  
> and "internet."
>
>
> Charity
>
> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 6:48 AM, Winthrop Yu <w.yu at gmx.net> wrote:
> Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote:
> On May 9, 2009, at 5:00 AM, artur wrote:
>
> I strongly recommend the ISOC discussion document Preserving the  User
> Centric Internet,
> http://www.isoc.org/pubpolpillar/docs/usercentric_en_2008.pdf
>
> Note that the ITU is interested in anything but user-centrcism. They  
> are an inter-governmental agency operating under the auspices of the  
> UN, and are dominated by the telecoms. They are about building  
> businesses for their members.
>
> I completely agree with your point. In fact, judging from the  
> replies we've had in this thread, it looks like everyone's in  
> agreement - which is heartwarming. IMHO it is up to the current user- 
> centric organisations to defend this model. Should they rally  
> together for the
> cause?
>
>  Definitely agree.  For example, while there are concerns about US
> government control of ICANN and thence the root zone, transfering
> that control to an *inter-governmental* agency (e.g. ITU, UN) would
> be much worse.  Sort of like -- out of the frying pan, into the fire.
>
> 3. Political Danger
> ... Opening the door to governmental control of information is  
> opening the
>
> door to a potential Hitler in 2039. The increased reliance on the  
> Internet for news, information and communication, opens the door for  
> abuse. Complete control by governments is therefore highly dangerous.
> Ref: Big Brother. This is no joke.
>
>  It isn't.  Government and UN bureaucrats follow a different agenda.
> To provide a local perspective ... when our Philippine representatives
> went to an ITU meeting, they were more interested in getting a seat on
> the board (prestige, bragging rights and junkets) rather than anything
> to do with public good.  Also included with that Philippine delegation
> is our GAC representative to ICANN, the same fellow who baby-sat ZTE
> from CICT thru DOTC.  It doesn't exactly inspire confidence, does  
> it? :)
>
>  Charity also forwarded PR China's concerns about security, which
> include Internet "blocking".  It seems that China wants to know if
> the UN will be taking a stance against blocking and filtering.  IMNHO,
> blocking and filtering would contravene the UN's own Universal
> Declaration of Human Rights, particularly Article 19 which includes
> the right to "seek, receive and impart information and ideas through
> any media and regardless of frontiers."
>
> 2-bits,
>
> WYn
>
> P.S.  trivium: the ITU insists on spelling "internet" with a small  
> "i",
> as if to indicate that it's just one of its (assumed) functions like
> "post", "telegraph" and "telephone".  Which is why i always make it a
> point to spell Internet with a capital "I". :)
>
>
>
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