[Chapter-delegates] [Isoc-ph-members] The Future Internet

[Louis Houle]

Buenos dias Alejandro,

Some cultural differences do exist though. In French, the relatively 
(2004) new recommanded ortograph allows the use of a small «i» for 
generic use of the word «internet». Curiously, the ITU started using a 
small «i» at the same time. As ISOCers, we should use a capital «I» 
whenever we refer to ISOC, IETF, and for any organization using the 
Internet in its name. A capital letter is then approriate. One must know 
that latin languages do not recommand the use of capital letters as much 
as in German and English, for instance. The rules differ. But the ITU 
should definitely recognize historical factors and agree on a capital 
letter . ISOC should be a model for everyone in the appropriate use of  
the name Internet.

Louis Houle
Président
ISOC Québec
Louis.Houle at isoc.qc.ca

Alejandro Pisanty a écrit :
> Bill, all,
>
> thanks for this very valuable perspective. Using capital letters for 
> Internet has long history (thus too the debate.)
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_capitalization_conventions 
> provides a good summary and mentions the relevant RFCs, which is the 
> first place we - ISOCers - are obliged to look when in doubt.
>
> Yours,
>
> Alejandro Pisanty
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> On Wed, 20 May 2009, Bill Graham wrote:
>
>> Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 13:23:29 -0400
>> From: Bill Graham <graham at isoc.org>
>> To: Franck Martin <franck at avonsys.com>
>> Cc: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org,
>>     ISOC-PH Members <isoc-ph-members at isoc.ph>,
>>     Charity Gamboa <charityg at diplomacy.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] [Isoc-ph-members]  The Future Internet
>>
>> Here's my perspective on this issue:
>>
>> The ITU started using lower case for the Internet in the middle of 
>> the WSIS process, about 1994.  Tim Kelly, who then headed the 
>> Strategic Policy Unit @ ITU, said it was purely for stylistic 
>> reasons, and based his argument on The Economist style guide <see: 
>> http://www.economist.com/research/styleGuide/index.cfm?page=805682>.  
>> At about the same time, Wired magazine (or should that be wired 
>> magazine?) announced that they had abandoned the upper case I because 
>> the Internet had become ubiquitous, like an aspirin <see 
>> http://www.wired.com/culture/lifestyle/news/2004/08/64596>.
>>
>> Many objected to Kelly's decision, including ISOC, the Canadian 
>> government and the US government.  Our argument is quite succinctly 
>> put here 
>> <http://www.teleread.org/2008/03/27/internet-vs-internet-and-web-vs-web-wisdom-from-bob-wyman-based-on-ietf-usage/ 
>>
>>> .  The ITU has steadfastly refused to change their tune.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> On 19-May-09, at 8:49 PM, Franck Martin wrote:
>>
>>> My understanding is you capitalize when you speak of "The Internet", 
>>> but you can keep it lower case when you talk about internet 
>>> technologies, or an internet application, ...
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Fred Baker" <fred at cisco.com>
>>> To: "Charity Gamboa" <charityg at diplomacy.edu>
>>> Cc: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org, "ISOC-PH Members" 
>>> <isoc-ph-members at isoc.ph>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, 20 May, 2009 12:38:16 PM GMT +12:00 New Zealand
>>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] [Isoc-ph-members]  The Future Internet
>>>
>>> Since "Internet" is a proper name, I capitalize it.
>>>
>>> On May 19, 2009, at 7:55 PM, Charity Gamboa wrote:
>>>
>>> Wyn: P.S.  trivium: the ITU insists on spelling "internet" with a 
>>> small "i",
>>> as if to indicate that it's just one of its (assumed) functions like
>>> "post", "telegraph" and "telephone".  Which is why i always make it a
>>> point to spell Internet with a capital "I". :)
>>>
>>> I have to admit ignorance in this case with regards to the use of 
>>> the big "I" and small "i" in the word "I-N-T-E-R-N-E-T."  Although I 
>>> am aware that it is the IETF who is directly responsible for 
>>> Internet standards, should the IETF insist more on this than ITU?
>>>
>>> If I confuse spelling the Internet with a small "i" and a big "I," 
>>> does it make a whole lot of difference of my understanding of the 
>>> INTERNET? I have seen and read in the past how some people write the 
>>> word with either a small "I" or a big "I."  I thought it was just 
>>> some typo.  If people confuse themselves in the use of  the big and 
>>> small "I," maybe it's the same way people use "Xerox" to pertain to 
>>> a photocopying ("Let's xerox the notes."); or "Kleenex" to pertain 
>>> to "tissue;" or "Coke" to a cola or "band-aid" pertaining to 
>>> bandage. Perhaps we may be also "genericizing" the words "Internet" 
>>> and "internet."
>>>
>>>
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