[Chapter-delegates] Fwd: Re: An occasion to congratulate and commit support to an initiative that is not part of ISOC....

WWWhatsup joly at punkcast.com
Tue Jan 13 13:38:03 PST 2009


I'm sorry - I was out for a couple of days.

George's response below.

j


>Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 23:43:57 -0500
>
>From: George Sadowsky <george.sadowsky at gmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] An occasion to congratulate and commit 
> support to an initiative that is not part of ISOC....
>Cc: WWWhatsup <joly at punkcast.com>,
>        chapter-delegates <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
>
>Joly,
>
>Alejandro has characterized the situation very well.
>
>The voice of Internet Society of China is modulated by the government of China, as are most Chinese organizations.  They may choose to approximate an ISOC chapter in form, but not neessarily in substance. Yet the y do find the "Internet Society" name of value; otherwise they probably would have chosen another name.
>
>I think that patience is in order here.  I suspect that in the long run, ISC will drift more closely to what an ISOC Chapter could be. But it will take time, and for now the best thing might be to recognize the difference, recognize the geopolitical tensions that have necessitated this difference, and observe if and how the relationship changes over time.
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>I do not think that this response will be delivered to the chapter delegates list, since I do not have posting privileges to it. If you want this message to go to the list, you should repost it there.
>
>Regards, and Happy New Year!
>
>George
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>At 10:16 PM +0000 1/8/09, Alejandro Pisanty wrote:
>>Hi,
>>
>>the relationshipo with the Internet Society of China has a long, complex history. Over time the best approach taht has worked is to delegate fully its management to ISOC HQ, who have done an esteemable job of this complex, sometimes ungrateful task.
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>>Franck has mentioned some of the complexities - relationships with other organizations in many countries, etc. - in which even a minor gaffe can complicate things that are otherwise well-managed.
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>>Each will arrive to different conclusions. Mine is to communicate bottom-up within ISOC any change someone may desire but still leave the responsibility where it presently resides.
>>
>>Alejandro Pisanty

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