[Chapter-delegates] ITU Followships for the World Telecommunication Policy Forum, April 2009, Lisbon, Portugal

[Hakikur Rahman]

I could not able to go to the page:
http://www.pewinternet.org/pdfs/PIP_Future_Internet.pdf

Anything wrong!

Best regards,
Hakik

At 06:51 AM 2/17/2009, borka at e5.ijs.si wrote:

>The study I know (see the PEW report on the Future Internet
>from December 14, 2008:
>www.pewinternet.org/pdfs/PIP_Future_Internet.pdf) where about 1150 people
>were asked for opinions (both known leading experts (50%) and 
>ordinary Internet users) shows that the clean slate design has no real footing
>at least for the next 10-15 years (is too risky and the current models
>is too widespread). NFS is certainly funding the clean slate
>research within GENI  and similar programmes but so far .....
>
>In the PEW report 76% of experts and 81% of users responded
>that the Internet will evolve and the  R&D will be focused on the
>improvement of the current Internet. the same applies to the security,
>HIP protocol is being deployed in EU and U.S and IPv6 if fully implemented
>introduce good security on network level.
>
>
>With regards,
>
>Borka
>
>ISOC Slovenia
>
>
>On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, Franck Martin wrote:
>
>>I think Scott Bradner in one of his presentations put it well. The 
>>difference between NGN and IPv6 is that NGN is licensed.
>>
>>There has been a paper recently in the NY-Times about a clean slate 
>>Internet, where people would be indetified, you loose freedom for 
>>better security... And you know the old saying: "people who forgo 
>>freedom for security will have neither"
>>
>>Recently I was looking at ITU initiative on SPAM: 
>>http://www.itu.int/osg/spu/spam/ as you can see the page as not 
>>been updated since 2006. They did Naming, went nowhere, standards 
>>are made by IETF and IEEE not ITU, So here are they, they move from 
>>topic to topic till they find their "raison d'etre". The last 
>>"marmotte" they have is Internet Security, what next?
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: borka at e5.ijs.si
>>To: "Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond" <ocl at gih.com>
>>Cc: "ISOC Chapter Delegates" <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
>>Sent: Tuesday, 17 February, 2009 6:13:50 PM (GMT+1200) Auto-Detected
>>Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] ITU Followships for the World 
>>Telecommunication Policy Forum, April 2009, Lisbon, Portugal
>>
>>Dear all,
>>
>>My two cents to this debate:
>>
>>I fully agree with Olivier and Alejandro  observation.
>>My viewing
>>is very similar  - there is a big rush in ITU
>>and similar organization as they are obviously
>>loosing the ground - the old telecom model
>>of telecommunication (and everything relied to it -
>>the telecommunication models used) is dying.
>>
>>They are looking for what is happening within the
>>Future Internet activities (taking
>>place in U.S, EU, S.Korea and Japan)
>>and the forums developing
>>the NGN which is certainly using the good exepriences
>>of Internet development and the Internet model.
>>
>>I was recently approached by one "national" industry member
>>in one of many SG groups of ITU to provide to  him the
>>"requirements for the NGN - the definition"
>>beeing worked and designed
>>within Future Internet activities in EU
>>(He said that he was asked to look around the
>>R&D efforts in his environment).
>>What a nonsense -
>>no one is ready now to specify accurately all  NGN requirements in
>>order stanadrdization effort to be applied within ITU!
>>
>>Other parties (The FIA - Future Internet Assembly of EU
>>and the EU Technological platforms (ETP - mainly
>>consisted of telecom industry and academia)  NESSI, NEM and
>>eMobility) have recently published (January 2009)
>>very good document entitled " Future Internet - The Cross-ETP Vision
>>Document (can be reached www.future-internet.eu) where
>>they clearly say:
>>
>>"It is hopeless for the Telecom players to compete with
>>Internet players keeping Telecom model for applications"
>>
>>and further:
>>
>>"Governance of Future Internet will be beyond Internet Name and addresses,
>>issues dealt today by ICANN.  It will include other significant public
>>policy issues  such as  critical Internet resources, security and safety
>>and issues pertaining to the use of the Internet"
>>
>>We all are aware that  this is a matter of discussion within IGF and
>>similar forums and certainly not ITU.
>>
>>Shall ISOC people help ITU in loking for NGN specification
>>in order they to start standardizing and later selling their CDs?
>>
>>With regards,
>>
>>prof.dr.Borka Jerman Blazic
>>ISOC-Slovenia and ISOC-ECC
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