[Chapter-delegates] scarcity of IPv4 addresses
Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
isolatedn at gmail.com
Sat Oct 25 13:49:39 PDT 2008
Yes. A great idea. An IPV6 TUNNEL would be great for all chapters.
Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 2:16 AM, Franck Martin <franck at sopac.org> wrote:
> I have been trying something with difficulty so this is what I would suggest
> ISOC request an IPv6 space and allocate portions of it for each chapter.
> Then we use that portion with tunnel like go6.net to have working IPv6
> wireless net for every event trainning etc we do
>
> I know a few of us run IPv6 on our laptops that way. Let's make it a chapter
> feature?
>
> Toute connaissance est une réponse à une question
>
> On 26/10/2008, at 7:35, "Sivasubramanian Muthusamy" <isolatedn at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Franck Martin <franck at sopac.org> wrote:
>>
>>> What would you and others suggest ISOC should do to save the titanic?
>>
>> Hello Frank Martin, John Schnizlein,
>>
>> 1. Focus on promoting migration to IPV6 rather than worry to much
>> about the IPV4 Legacy? The more ICANN and the RIRs fret over the hard,
>> unpleasant decisions that need to be taken on IPV4, greater would be
>> the time taken to transition to IPV6. Some breathing space is indeed
>> required, but the extent of importance given to managing IPV4
>> resources appear to be in the order of extending the life span of the
>> IPV4 Legacy. What ISOC could do is to encourage hard, tough decisions
>> and make it swift. The address spaces were allocated almost for free,
>> at a throwaway price, and now they are dear. Any thing scarce brings
>> in a lot of value. The businesses are bound to resist the idea of
>> letting them all go exactly at this opportunistic moment. So, remind
>> everyone that these are relatively 'free" assets and make all the
>> tough decisions that are necessary on the issues of recalling unused
>> addresses or on allowing/ disallowing transfers. ( At the same time,
>> some consideration needs to given to the inexplicable aspects in
>> business - these "assets" might have been acquired at a negligible
>> cost, but around these allocations businesses are bound to have
>> invested a considerably, so the "accumulated" cost of these assets
>> would in reality be a lot more than initially paid for. If ICANN as
>> many cents as collected on allocation, it might square up ICANN's
>> books, but might not be the same case with businesses. )
>>
>> 2. Declare War. It requires war like measures to cause IPV6 adopted
>> before it is too late.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 1:27 AM, John Schnizlein <schnizlein at isoc.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, price speculation is possible in an unregulated market for IPv4
>>> address
>>> blocks. This speculation could, as your doubt suggests, increase
>>> volatility in such
>>> a market.
>>
>> Should we be complacent at this threat of speculative trade in the
>> names and numbers space? Speculation has done enough harm to the
>> World Economy, shouldn't the Internet be kept away from such trade
>> practices ?
>>
>> Perhaps ICANN could make it mandatory that transfers are routed through
>> RIRs.
>>
>> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
>> ISOC India Chennai.
>
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