[Chapter-delegates] scarcity of IPv4 addresses

[Chris Grundemann]

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 4:36 AM, Franck Martin <franck at sopac.org> wrote:

> What would you and others suggest ISOC should do to save the titanic?
>

Vocally advocate the return of unneeded/unused IPv4 addresses and the
adoption of IPv6.  We all need to be shouting this from soap boxes as loudly
as we can.  IMHO, this should be the extent of ISOC's stance, other than
possibly pointing to the IETF's technical solutions that are in progress.
~Chris

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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond" <ocl at gih.com>
> To: "Chris Grundemann" <cgrundemann at gmail.com>, "John Schnizlein" <
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> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] scarcity of IPv4 addresses
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> Hello Chris,
>
> My replies inline below:
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> If members of this list are interested, I can compile a fairly long list of
> reference material and documentation of the views of folks on both sides of
> this issue.  To start with, this decision tree may be helpful to some who
> have not spent as much time thinking about this issue yet as others have: http://odin.chrisgrundemann.com/files/Do_I_Support_A_Liberalized_Transfer_Policy.jpg.
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> <http://odin.chrisgrundemann.com/files/Do_I_Support_A_Liberalized_Transfer_Policy.jpg.%20>
>
> Very interesting indeed! Thanks for your flowchart!
>

Thank you.

>
> However, have we not spent too much time on this, when our efforts should
> go towards promoting IPv6 migration, in any way possible (penalise IPv4,
> subsidise IPv6, promote v6 over v4 financially, restrict v4 allocation,
> reclaim v4 addresses and park/decommission them, etc.)?
>

Actually I agree, I think that the focus on an IP market has detracted from
other efforts that would have much more of an impact, especially in concert.


> As Randy Bush said on the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List:
>
> "there is a serious brick wall looming in the headlights."
>

I liked Tom Vest's reply to Randy:
  "A wise driver might consider braking and turning instead...."


> and David Conrad also mentioned on the Global-v6 list at APNIC:
>
> "However, given the way RIR policy definition works, I don't believe
> there is sufficient time to establish the necessary consensus for any
> policy that would significantly affect the outcome to be instituted.
> As I mentioned to someone privately, the Titanic is too big and moving
> too fast to avoid the iceberg..."
>
> In my opinion, we are wasting too much time on everything else.
>
> Would ISOC be able to save the Titanic? Would it want to?
>
> O.
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