[Chapter-delegates] Bulgaria moves to register Cyrillic Internet domain

Tue Jun 24 09:35:32 PDT 2008

Hello Alejandro Pisantry,

This is a very valid question. Localization is important, but in the
process of localization if the localized zone becomes inaccessible
internationally the effect would be contrary to that intended.

May be the technical community should think of a domain name
architecture whereby there is a digitized domain name system - the
digitized 'name' is functional at the DNS level. It is the
digitization of a local name visible to the locals as the local
language name, but gets converted into any other language for the
convenience of those from the rest of the world

<cyrillc-bg> name  - the user in Bulgaria enters a cyrillic name
The DNS system gets the same name translated into digits
The international user knows the digital name
There is a global web interface akin to tinyurl.com that converts the
digital 'name' into any local language, for instance, Spanish
The user in spain types the Spanish characters in the address bar of
his browser. <spanish-bg> name
The DNS system re translates it to the digital name which is looked up
as the <cyrillc-bg> name website.

A possible solution  I wish to know if this is technically sound.

Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
ISOC India Chennai
http://www.linkedin.com/in/sivasubramanianmuthusamy

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 7:27 PM, Alejandro Pisanty
<apisan at servidor.unam.mx> wrote:
> Gene,
>
> I certainly join you in congratulating Dessi and the team in Bulgaria.
>
> I think that here in the chapters we have a very sepcial opportunity, as a
> community, to test the whole concept that has been advanced now.
>
> In particular I am curious to see what happens the first time that a site
> goes up with a <cyrillc-bg> name and one of us wants to access it without a
> Cyrillic keyboard in an Internet cafe somewhere. And "access" may well mean
> sending email, as much as it might mean opening a Web site.
>
> Ours is a community that can especially help each other to make progress in
> such tests and be of assistance to Dessi an all others with her.
>
> Yours,
>
> Alejandro Pisanty
>
>
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> On Tue, 24 Jun 2008, Gene Gaines wrote:
>
>> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:30:25 -0400
>> From: Gene Gaines <gene.gaines at gainesgroup.com>
>> To: Dessi Pefeva <dpefeva at isoc.bg>
>> Cc: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Bulgaria moves to register Cyrillic
>>  Intern
>>    domain
>>
>> I am very pleased to see SAITC (Bulgarian State Agency for Information
>> Technologies and Communicatoins), with important support from the
>> Bulgarian
>> ISOC chapter, <http://www.daits.government.bg/>take the step of requesting
>> registration of a Cyrillic TLD from ICANN. (below)
>>
>> If "The Internet is for Everyone" then we must provide the means for
>> everyone to communicate using their language and their character set.
>>
>> Congratulation ISOC.bg
>>
>> Gene Gaines
>> VP, DCISOC (Washington DC Area Chapter of ISOC)
>> *
>> *On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 7:27 AM, Dessi Pefeva <dpefeva at isoc.bg> wrote:
>>
>>>  I am happy to announce that the Bulgarian government has shown
>>> officially
>>> its intent to register the .бг (.bg in Cyrillic) domain. They did it in a
>>> letter, sent yesterday to ICANN's President Paul Twomey.
>>>
>>> This is due also thanks to the efforts of ISOC-Bulgaria. Bulgarian
>>> President, Prime Minister, Foreign Minister, and the Minister of ITC are
>>> all
>>> members of ISOC. They have talked on a number of times in the past six
>>> months with ISOC.bg on these issues.
>>>
>>> Obviously the conversations have been fruitful. See more information
>>> here:
>>> http://uk.reuters.com/article/internetNews/idUKL2360195920080623
>>>
>>>  And this is the official press-release from the ITC Agency:
>>>
>>> Bulgaria has requested the registration of a Cyrillic top level domain
>>> (TLD) from *ICANN* <http://www.icann.org/>. The letter from the chairman
>>> of the Bulgarian State Agency for Information Technologies and
>>> Communicatoins (*SAITC* <http://www.daits.government.bg/>) Plamen
>>> Vatchkov
>>> to the president of ICANN Paul Twomey was delivered today, June 23rd,
>>> 2008, in Paris via the Bulgarian representative to the Governmental
>>> Advisory
>>> Committee of ICANN, and was distributed for information only in Geneva
>>> where
>>> the ITU is headquartered. Thus Bulgaria requested the fast track for
>>> implementation of its own Cyrillic IDNs.
>>>
>>> In the letter to the ICANN President, the SAITC chairman informs the
>>> authoritative international organization, dealing with assigned names and
>>> numbers, that Bulgaria has decided to register and maintain the country
>>> code
>>> .бг (bg in Cyrillic)
>>>
>>> Further in the letter, SAITC chairman informs that the discussion on
>>> using
>>> Cyrillic domain names was initiated by the President of Bulgaria Georgi
>>> Parvanov during the visit of the Russian President Putin and the then
>>> vice-prime minister, and now President of Russia Dmitry Medvedev during
>>> their visit in January 2008 in Sofia. The question was also discussed
>>> during
>>> meetings of Bulgarian Prime Minister Sergei Stanishev with the Russian
>>> counterparts, as well as during talks between foreign ministers Ivailo
>>> Kalfin and Sergei Lavrov. Last week, Russian President Medvedev announced
>>> in
>>> Moscow, that the issue of Cyrillic domain names is an important one, and
>>> on
>>> his political agenda.
>>>
>>> „We believe that the initiative, which we discussed with our Russian
>>> friends in the last months, is a clear fact about the importance which
>>> Bulgaria has in the world Internet. It is an example not only about the
>>> historical meaning of the Cyrillic alphabet in the world arena, but also
>>> about the fact that through Bulgaria it became an official alphabet of
>>> the
>>> European Union. By sending this letter to Dr. Twomey – ICANN's president
>>> and
>>> my friend, SAITC expresses not only the wish, but the readiness to put
>>> the
>>> Cyrillic IDNs on the Internet map", says Plamen Vatchkov. „There's
>>> nothing
>>> more natural than the proposed domain to be the country code, which is
>>> already known and accepted in the country itself. Creating domains in
>>> scripts, different from the Latin, is the next big step in the
>>> development
>>> of the Internet, which will allow millions of people who don't use
>>> English
>>> to have easier access to the Global Net resources".
>>>
>>> SAITC is organizing a meeting later this year in Sofia, where all
>>> countries, using Cyrillic will be invited - Belarus, Bulgaria,
>>> Kazakhstan,
>>> Kyrgyzstan, Macedonia, Mongolia, Russia, Serbia, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan
>>> and
>>> Ukraine. The meeting will be dedicated to discussion about IDNs.
>>>
>>> for more information:
>>> Press Center
>>> phone +359-2-9492368
>>> "Ekaterina Popova" <epopova at daits.government.bg>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Ms. Dessi Pefeva,
>>> Internet Society - Bulgaria*
>>>
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