[Chapter-delegates] press release to be sent shortly

Tue Jun 17 22:52:00 PDT 2008

Dear Sivasubramanian,

an interesting subject to discuss face-to-face as well as online.

But, identifying as "technical community" has definitely been the norm in 
the post-WSIS context, and helped save the Internet quite a bunch of 
unnecessary trouble, big-time.

So I would rather ask whether other policy-oriented organizations are 
equally committed to the end-to-end and any-to-any principles of the 
Internet. Compare the civil-society/TUAC statement and the technical 
community's, both for the OECD meeting. The subtle differences among them 
mean a lot. Recognizing that there is technical and standards work to be 
done makes a huge difference. Asking alone, versus asking and being able 
to provide, is the name of that difference.

This statement does not detract from the fact that, especially in chapters 
outside the US/Europe where we don't have that many IETFers, we see the 
need to develop policy-oriented stuff and intervene in public life as an 
activity equally important to the development of technical standards, and 
a more pressing need in our lives.

I would also add that besides the IETF (plus IAB etc.), ISOC, ICANN, and 
the RIRs, already mentioned, the "technical community" includes many 
ccTLDs and a bunch of other organizations whose role is not purely 
technical, yet are comfortable with the umbrella designation.

And, if you want to see a bitter, bitter fight about this designation that 
might convince you of keeping it, take a look at the discussions in the 
"Internet Governance Caucus" in which the nastiness of the other side 
exhibits so many problems that you may almost start getting a mystical 
view of the term!

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On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy wrote:

> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:52:22 -0700
> From: Sivasubramanian Muthusamy <isolatedn at gmail.com>
> To: Sebastian Ricciardi <sricciardi at fibertel.com.ar>
> Cc: ISOC Chapter Delegates <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] press release to be sent shortly
> 
> Hello Gerald Ross,
>
> That was not to belitte the efforts to come up with a press release.
> If it it a joint press release nothing much could be changed now, and
> it it might not be wise to pay attention to the finer aspects.
>
> ISOC needs to be referred to differently, will write a note on this in
> a separate conttext.
>
> Thank you.
> Sivasubramanian M
>
>
> On 6/17/08, Sebastian Ricciardi <sricciardi at fibertel.com.ar> wrote:
>> Indeed!
>>
>> S.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] On Behalf Of Fred Baker
>> Sent: Martes, 17 de Junio de 2008 02:26 p.m.
>> To: Gerard Ross
>> Cc: ISOC Chapter Delegates
>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] press release to be sent shortly
>>
>>
>> On Jun 17, 2008, at 3:19 AM, Gerard Ross wrote:
>>> Thanks for your suggestion. However, I believe the name Internet
>>> technical community came from the OECD, in the preparations for
>>> this event, and the request they made to ISOC to coordinate this
>>> particular stakeholder forum.
>>
>> it goes further. In the IGF and WSIS discussions, the NRO, IETF,
>> ICANN, and various other infrastructure organizations (of which ISOC
>> is one) have been collectively referred to as the ITC. Inventing a
>> new name here mostly results in a dilution of the message, as the
>> hearers are likely to answer "who's that?"
>>
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