[Chapter-delegates] net neutrality vs DNS redirection

[Narelle Clark]

> From: Franck Martin [mailto:franck at sopac.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, 22 July 2008 12:30 PM
>
> For anti-spam measure, in postfix, sendmail, spamassassin, it
> is a common test to check if sender domain exists and has an
> MX record.

These are server based systems, and would not have been affected by the DNS redirection we were discussing. In that example, I think we can assume that the local ISP would not have redirected its own mail servers, nor would any third party mail servers have been affected.

The principle I was discussing was that of a tier 3 ISP and its directly connected customers, not a higher order one. Generally, mail servers are not run on consumer services. We also do not know whether this was precluded in the specific implementation, nor whether it could be...


> There is a new way of thinking, that in fact placing a P2P
> node at an ISP saves a lot of bandwidth. It is becoming like
> P2P is helping localise traffic.
>
> More and more, applications, patches, software updates are
> distributed via bit-torrent. Having a local bit  torrent node
> managed by the ISP will save him a lot of non-local traffic.

Agreed: file sharing in and of itself is not, and to my mind should not be, illegal.

P2P file sharing caches are a different can of worms again. ISPs then potentially become party to illegal replication of content. Until content in the P2P world is flagged and marked as 'open license' or something, then one has no easy automated way to replicate things without potential for liability. If they won't even flag as FTP but claim to be http, I doubt we'll get to 'free content' vs 'stolen'.

When the cost of litigation is less than the cost of bandwidth that might even out... LOL


> Finally, I have heard about QOS for years... It simply does
> not work, because the money you spend in setting up QOS, you
> can spend the money in increasing the bandwidth and have the
> problem solved as well.

Hmmmm. That's debatable also. IME bandwidth is like a freeway, the more lanes you put, the more cars you get on it.

> Anyhow, I'm not against ISPs prioritizing traffic, but they
> should be "extremely clear" on what they are doing.


Cheers

Narelle
Who thinks she might stop debating for a while :-)
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