[Chapter-delegates] ISOC joins panel discussing future of global Internet regulation
Alejandro Pisanty
apisan at servidor.unam.mx
Fri Aug 15 00:07:33 PDT 2008
Siva,
IMO there is no single authoritative, relevant, high-quality online forum
for this discussion.
There are a number of specialized discussion lists - a large number of
examples exists under the ICANN umbrella, for instance, and some of the
discussions are well worth reading and even participating.
There are a number of online discussions related to the IGF which in my
view have proven repeatedly to be problematic in many ways. While
considerations of bias and lack of tolerance to diversity of opinions may
be subjective, some of these forums have proven objectively and explicitly
to have frank and open opposition to membership and access to leadership
positions by people related to organizations which ISOC supports (even if
critically, but then the critique is open and does not interfere with the
support.)
OTOH we do have this delegates list for discussion among a very broad set
of viewpoints, and further there is the members' discussion list.
We as chapter delegates should feel the obligation to take many of our
discussions to the membership list, as their conclusions are certain to be
of interest to a broader community. Further, to the best I can remember,
there is specifically a list for policy discussion among ISOC members.
So, shoot, start a question either here or there and surely the discussion
will not be boring.
I already notice your question on Google, blogging, and India, so you may
yourself have decided that this is indeed a good path to follow.
Yours,
Alejandro Pisanty
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UNAM, Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico
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---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org
Participa en ICANN, http://www.icann.org
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2008, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy wrote:
> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:04:31 +0530
> From: Sivasubramanian Muthusamy <isolatedn at gmail.com>
> To: Bill Graham <graham at isoc.org>
> Cc: Alejandro Pisanty <apisan at servidor.unam.mx>,
> "<chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>" <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] ISOC joins panel discussing future of global
> Internet regulation
>
> Hello BIll Graham
>
> What are the most authentic forums and email lists that bring together
> important members of the Internet Community where policy related to
> Governance issues get influenced / shaped ?
>
> Is there a possibility of ISOC creating a Discussion Group / email list with
> invitations extended to the balanced members of the Internet Community from
> within and outside ISOC ?
>
> Sivsubramanian Muthusamy
>
> On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Bill Graham <graham at isoc.org> wrote:
>
>> Sure, Alejandro, happy to. By the way, Anne has kindly mounted the
>> presentation on the Chapters site -- and I now know how to do it
>> myself ;-)
>>
>> Most of this will be covered in the newsletter in greater detail, but
>> in general I would say my takeaways were as follows:
>>
>> -- Audience: US based lawyers are not surprisingly interested in
>> things that might affect their practices, largely by offering them new
>> lines of work. Their interest was therefore largely to do with things
>> that could end up in a court: fraud, phishing, privacy, and protection
>> of intellectual property rights. Their questions focused on those
>> items, as well as wondering what if any new kinds of judicial or quasi-
>> judicial bodies could emerge (such as the Council of Europe convention
>> on cybercrime, that has an increasing number of non-European
>> signatories -- see <>).
>>
>> -- Markus Kummer (IGF Secretariat): nothing new here, but Markus
>> believes IGF is setting new benchmarks for multistakeholder engagement
>> in what would previously have been inter-governmental discussions. I
>> think he is right, which is one reason I think we in ISOC need to stay
>> engaged with IGF directly, but also with civil society and other
>> groups in the Internet community. Chapters will play an increasingly
>> important role in this as IGF-model meetings are now expanding at the
>> regional, national, and sub-national levels.
>>
>> -- Paul Twomey (ICANN CEO): concentrated on the introduction of new
>> gTLDs, as a development of obvious interest for the legal community.
>> Beyond that, his comments focused on the recent ICANN consultation on
>> increasing institutional confidence, based on the President's Strategy
>> Committee report, and ICANN's preparations for the end of the joint
>> project agreement with the US government. He also responded to
>> questions about the security weekness in the DNS revealed last week,
>> and the importance of DNSSEC.
>>
>> -- Dick Beaird (US Department of State): restated the United States
>> government position on Internet governance, and said that the 30 July
>> statement from Meredith Baker did not in any change the long standing
>> positions growing out of the original green and white papers of 1998.
>> He also talked about the ever-expanding importance of the Internet
>> economy, and walked through the outcomes of the OECD Ministerial
>> meeting in Seoul last June. You will recall that ISOC served the
>> Internet technical community by coordinating 17 organizations in
>> preparation of our memorandum to the ministers and of the preparation
>> of the 1-day Internet technical community forum.
>>
>> So -- any new forces? Not really, but I believe the Bar Association
>> will be a more prominent participant in future IGF meetings, and we
>> can expect to see them offering fact-based workshops. I would not say
>> there is anything else that could be seen as reshaping the debate, but
>> then an annual conference would not normally be a place for that to
>> happen. I believe, however, that it is important for ISOC to take up
>> invitations to events like this. We reached a new audience with our
>> long-established positions, created awareness of our activities and
>> the visibility of ISOC as a player and partner in the Internet
>> governance universe. And, as you will see in the presentation, it
>> provides an opportunity to educate a new audience about the importance
>> of the open, collaborative Internet model, while drawing attention to
>> our major strategic initiatives. There was definite interest in the
>> Trust and Identity MSI, as well as the others. I hope it may attract
>> new org members from the legal community as well.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Bill
>> ========================
>> Bill Graham
>> Global Strategic Engagement
>> The Internet Society
>> graham at isoc.org
>> tel +1.613.231.8543 or
>> +1.703.439.2157
>>
>>
>> On 13-Aug-08, at 9:02 PM, Alejandro Pisanty wrote:
>>
>>> Bill,
>>>
>>> and, could you tell us in brief narrative what the event was like?
>>> Are new forces visible that could reshape the debate, is there any
>>> sign of upcoming progress, regression, or stalling?
>>>
>>> I know the question may be too naive or the answer too candid for
>>> public use ;-). But also I'm sure that many of our chapters could
>>> use even a very politically correct statement.
>>>
>>> Alejandro Pisanty
>>>
>>>
>>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
>> .
>>> Dr. Alejandro Pisanty
>>> UNAM, Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico
>>>
>>> Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732
>>>
>>> *Mi blog/My blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com
>>> *LinkedIn profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty
>>> *Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn,
>> http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614
>>>
>>> ---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org
>>> Participa en ICANN, http://www.icann.org
>>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
>> .
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008, Bill Graham wrote:
>>>
>>>> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:01:17 -0400
>>>> From: Bill Graham <graham at isoc.org>
>>>> To: WWWhatsup <joly at punkcast.com>
>>>> Cc: "<chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>" <
>> chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org
>>>>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] ISOC joins panel discussing future
>>>> of global
>>>> Internet regulation
>>>> Just FYI -- I will get a copy of the presentation on the Chapters
>>>> site
>>>> as soon as I can educate myself as to how it works! I've also
>>>> prepared a story for this month's newsletter.
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>> On 13-Aug-08, at 2:47 PM, WWWhatsup wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sorry. This escaped my notice. I would've gone and
>>>>> videotaped had I known.
>>>>>
>>>>> joly
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you post the presentations / proceedings of this meeting on the
>>>>>> internet for us all to read ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
>>>>>> India Chennai
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The event "The Internet - How It is Governed Today and How it
>>>>>>> May Be
>>>>>>> Governed Tomorrow: A VIP Panel Discusses the Internet Governance
>>>>>>> Forum of
>>>>>>> the United Nations and the Global Debate About the Control and
>>>>>>> Future of the
>>>>>>> Internet" will be held by the American Bar Association (ABA) in
>>>>>>> New York
>>>>>>> City on Saturday 9 August 2008.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> WWWhatsup NYC
>>>>> http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>
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