[Chapter-delegates] APPLICATION for form ISOC Democratic Republic of Congo chapter - please review

[Alejandro Pisanty]

Veni,

in most of this we do agree. And indeed, in that we ought to support all 
that try to start a chapter.

Where we may differ is, first, that the "we" in your email, re analyzing 
the Congo DR proposition is not yet open or known to the chapter 
delegates, and further, that we owe ourselves some due diligence indeed.

Not the least is to make sure the people who come forward have a straight, 
honest proposition and are doing no collateral damage, for example to an 
existing chapter or to another self-organizing group.

IMO that is one of the great benefits of this list - open and transparent 
discussion, and then of course a warm welcome to new, established friends.

So the information that has been conveyed, explicitly by Patrick and 
Marie-Anne, or implicitly by Alex and others who know the principals in 
the DRC and have vouched for them, is the best grounds we have to go 
forward in expanding this wonderful organization.

Yours,

Alejandro Pisanty


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On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Veni Markovski wrote:

> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 12:05:57 -0500
> From: Veni Markovski <veni at veni.com>
> To: Alejandro Pisanty <apisan at servidor.unam.mx>,
>     Veni Markovski <veni at veni.com>
> Cc: Anne Lord <lord at isoc.org>, chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org,
>     chapters at isoc.org
> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] APPLICATION for form ISOC Democratic 
>     Republic of Congo chapter - please review
> 
> Alejandro,
> we've discussed the Romanian proposal for quite a while now (years), and it 
> was time to do it. As for Congo, I believe Didier did some work on the ICANN 
> NomCom some years ago, and the work was good. But the general understanding 
> which I have is that as long as there are volunteers within the broader ISOC 
> community to organize themselves, and do some work for the good of the 
> Internet, we, the other chapters, should support them. In the case of Congo, 
> what makes good impression, is that they are forming an NGO to do the work. 
> It's generally good for ISOC to have as chapters other organizations, 
> formally founded, rather than just group of people - esp. when we talk about 
> chapter approval, funding, communications, etc.
>
> Best,
> Veni
>
>
> At 04:33 PM 1/22/2007  +0000, Alejandro Pisanty wrote:
>> Veni,
>> 
>> great to read you.
>> 
>> Does your email imply that you know the proponents of both and trust that:
>> 
>> 1. they represent a fraction of the Internet community in their countries;
>> 2. are able to represent ISOC's ideals and plans;
>> 3. they are honest dealers who will play straight for all involved;
>> 4. are not overriding, sequestering, or otherwise playing foul with other 
>> former or possible proponents of a chapter;
>> 5. will run their chapter as far as possible in a democratic, transparent 
>> manner;
>> 6. are reasonably independent from pressures of special interests?
>> 
>> (and so on, i.e., are you telling us briefly that you have done your share 
>> of due diligence on both? I would bet you know well the principals in 
>> Romania and can answer "yes" to all of the above but don't know equally 
>> well how much you are acquainted with our friends from Congo, as instead 
>> Wallonie and Luxembourg, i.e. Marie-Anne and Patrick have documented.)
>> 
>> This is in no way a challenge to your knowledge! My thought is that when 
>> ISOC staff consults the chapter delegates on these matters they are not 
>> only looking for applause and warm welcomes, which tend to be well 
>> deserved, but asking for the things that Marie-Anne and Patrick have 
>> replied to. We form a "Web of trust" of sorts.
>> 
>> BTW based on the information provided till now I support the two 
>> applications, and hope that someone has indeed documented answers to the 
>> due-diligence questions.
>> 
>> Yours,
>> 
>> Alejandro Pisanty
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Veni Markovski
> http://www.veni.com
>
> check also my blog:
> http://blog.veni.com
>
>
>