[Chapter-delegates] (no subject)

[Alejandro Pisanty]

Patrick,

1. though I have no doubt that Toure is sincere in his intentions to move 
forward, there is too much baggage, too many well-known staff to allow us 
to assume a goodwilled approach of the ITU to the Internet that coincides 
with what ISOC thinks and does.

Just as we are speaking, a consultation is going on about Resolution 102, 
which probably many of us think that the ITU should simply repudiate and 
wait for the next chance to make a better start.

So yes, bringing this to the practical aspect of Constance's 
participation, means being careful not to sacrifice ISOC's principles, and 
to observe very carefully the undercurrents and report back.

Re organizational members and chapters, I hope that the BoT and staff can 
develop clear information so that if there is a reasonable request from a 
chapter, we will have a clear architecture that allows for supporting both 
ISOC in general and its chapters.

Yours,

Alejandro Pisanty


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On Mon, 16 Apr 2007, Patrick Vande Walle wrote:

> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 09:12:41 +0200
> From: Patrick Vande Walle <patrick at vande-walle.eu>
> To: Alejandro Pisanty <apisan at servidor.unam.mx>
> Cc: Anne Lord <lord at isoc.org>,
>     Chapter Delegates <chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org>
> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] (no subject)
> 
> Dear Alejandro,
>
> With regard to ISOC's involvement in the ITU processes, I do not think
> that it represents a global endorsement from ISOC of what the ITU is
> doing. Surely, ISOC should not bargain its values.
> We have to be pragmatic here.  It is only  when you join a process that
> you are able to influence it. Once you have built a sufficient trust
> relationship, others will take your viewpoints into account.
>
> I would not assume that the ITU is unable to change to adapt to a new
> environment. The new secretary general has sent out strong messages
> about how he sees the role of the ITU in the Internet context and what
> it should *not* do. You know Mr Toure was willing to attend the ICANN
> meeting in Lisbon, had he not been blocked by bad weather.
> All in all, I think we should start a positive, open-minded partnership
> with the ITU.
>> I'd like to say that at least some Chapter delegates
>> and members would have some reservations here and would be heartened to
>> see that some ISOC organizational members (companies, to be clear) put in
>> an effort with ISOC for similar purposes as with the ITU.
>>
> Agree and I pointed out several times in the past to the lack of
> knowledge from the org membership about chapters and IMs. Often, those
> org members which know chapters exist do not have a clear view of the
> relationship between them and HQ. There is a need to educate them.
> I was recently mentioned the example of a chapter which had a lot of
> difficulty getting a sponsorship from one of ISOC's org members.
> Somehow, the company  thought  it did not have to pay twice for the same
> service. We should avoid at all costs competition between HQ and
> chapters when it comes to org members.
>
> Best,
>
> -- 
> Patrick Vande Walle
>