[Chapter-delegates] ISOC Romania

Sat Jun 10 10:33:27 PDT 2006

Dear all,
We wrote an email a week ago to our president/CEO , Ms. Lynn StAmour and 
yesterday I forwarded the same email to Mr. David McAuley, Membership 
Director because I don't know who is now the Chapters Director, on the ISOC 
staff page the is no Chapters Director.

Our problem is the lack of official recognition of the ISOC Romania chapter 
that was created on the 9th of July 2001 (!!!)  in Paris and Eduard Tric, 
its director sent all the necessary applications papers in 2002 to Jim 
Galvin in Reston but noting happened since then so we askedor the support 
of the ISOC management team and now we ask for your support, the chapter 
delegates' one.

Best regards ans thanks for your reactions.

Radu Cotet
CFO ISOC Belgium Wallonia Chapter

>Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 15:15:09 +0200
>To: st.amour at isoc.org
>From: Radu Cotet <rco at info.fundp.ac.be>
>Subject: ISOC Romania
>Cc: "Marie-Anne Delahaut" <delahaut.marie-anne at wallonie-isoc.org>, eduard 
>Tric <tric at axetel.com>, iteanu at iteanu.com
>
>Ms President of the Internet Society,
>Dear Lynn,
>
>We are members of  the Belgium - Wallonia Chapter of ISOC and we have been 
>working for some years in collaboration with the Romanian Chapter of the 
>ISOC. This partnership goes on in 2006-2007 and certainly further on with 
>different high level partners.
>The problem with our Romanian partner chapter is that 5 years after its 
>official creation, fostered in Paris by ISOC France and ISOC Wallonia 
>among others, and 4 years after all the registration applications were 
>sent several times to Reston, it is not yet officially recognized by the 
>Internet Society and not even mentioned among the "ISOC Chapters in formation".
>
>We can provide you proof for all our assertions (emails and applications 
>sent to Jim Galvin at Reston), please find here two among them:
>
>- the first one is the announcement made by our President, Marie-Anne 
>Delahaut about the creation of the Romanian chapter of ISOC in Paris in 
>July 2001:
>
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>From: Marie-Anne Delahaut <mailto:delahaut.marie-anne at wallonie-isoc.org>
>On Behalf Of delahaut.ma at WALLONIE-ISOC.ORG
>Sent: jeudi 10 avril 2003 18:42
>To: 'ecc-council at isoc-ecc.org'
>Subject: RE: [ecc-council] ECC Chapter Members
>
>
>All,
>
>ISOC Romania was created as an ISOC chapter in Paris on the 9th of July 
>2001, with ISOC France and ISOC Wallonia as helping structure. The 
>ceremony was hosted by the General Delegation to French Language, honored 
>by the presence of Mme Anne MAGNANT, General Delegate.
>
>http://www.lafrancite.org/ISOC_Roumanie.htm
>
>I don't know if ISOC Romania is now among ISOC's "current" or "in 
>formation" chapters but, anyway, other chapters "in formation" participate 
>to this list, have been welcome participants to ECC meetings and had an 
>opportunity to vote (MoU or official representative).
>
>Kind regards,
>
>Marie-Anne
>
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>- the second one is part of the "Minutes of the ISOC-ECC Meeting, May 
>11th, IGC/INET 2004, Barcelona" where you can read (and you will kindly 
>remember that event as you where personally present at this meeting) this 
>exchange of question/answer
>(accessible on the Internet at this address
>http://www.isoc.se/sajt/bilder/pdf/ISOC-ECC%20INET%20meeting%20minutes_3.pdf
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>11. Eduard Tric from Romania, expressed his disappointment about the lack 
>of recognition of the ISOC-Romanian Chapter after 2 years of having send 
>the application.
>
>12. Jim Galvin answered him that ISOC is keeping track of the Romanian 
>case and that they will try to announce a final decision in a short time.
>
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>
>This final decision has not yet been announced two years after the 
>Barcelona meeting, the short time becomes quite long.
>
>This situation is completely abnormal, and here are some arguments about 
>the situation of Internet and IT industry in Romania::
>
>1. Romania was one of the first East European countries to have been 
>connected to Internet, it was in the early nineties (1993) when me (Radu 
>Cotet) and my wife (which was working then for the Computer Science Dept 
>of the University of Namur, Belgium) have made the first tests of the 
>Internet connection with our colleagues from the Politehnica University of 
>Bucharest - P.U.B. (among whom Mr.Nini Popovici was the leader of the 
>team), and helped them configure their first email server and send their 
>first emails abroad.
>Since then, the team of P.U.B. has grown to became what nowadays is called 
>the RoEduNet http://www.roedu.net/who.html
>
>And RoEduNet is one of the dozens of large Romanian ISPs.
>
>2. The quality of the Romanian universities is very good, the development 
>of the IT industry in Romania has been important during the last years, 
>and very large US IT companies come to hire their researchers and 
>programmers in Romania - examples: the third language spoken at Microsoft 
>Inc. in Redmond, WA is Romanian, after English and Russian, many Romanian 
>born engineers are working for Oracle, Cisco, Sun Microsystems etc., and I 
>am not even taking into account the semiconductors industry, where the 
>situation is similar within big companies like Fairchild, Intel, AMD etc.
>
>3.. The 2002 ICANN Meeting was held in Bucharest, Romania between the 24th 
>and the 28th of June 2002
>
>4. Romania is actually the "new India" for the software outsourcing, 
>Gartner Group is presenting this as a fact, as does other analysts:
>
>http://tubbydev.typepad.com/offshore_programming/2004/06/index.html
>Romania leads outsourcing charge (source ZDnet UK)
>
>http://www.silicon.com/management/itdirector/0,39024673,10005975,00.htm
>Romania emerges as Indian offshore alternative
>
>and last but not least
>
>5. Romania with its 23 millions inhabitants is the second largest country 
>in East Europe after Poland.
>
>So how is it possible that (for example) the F.Y.R. of Macedonia chapter 
>(country with only 2 millions of inhabitants) has already been officially 
>recognized by the ISOC, and not the Romanian one.
>ISOC Macedonia is just an example among many others, we don't have 
>anything against our colleagues from Macedonia and we have congratulated 
>them for their recognition, but what about the Romanian chapter?
>Why this discrimination?
>
>Ms President, dear Lynn, could you please re-analyse the situation of the 
>Romanian chapter and announce asap its formal recognition by the ISOC.
>
>Hoping for a quick solution to this problem, we thank you for your answer.
>
>Best regards
>
>Marie-Anne Delahaut
>President, ISOC Belgium - Wallonia
>___________________________________________
>Marie-Anne Delahaut * delahaut.marie-anne at wallonie-isoc.org
>directrice de recherche et responsable du Pôle Information
>director of research and head of the Information Unit
>Institut Jules-Destrée * the Destree Institute
>Namur, Région Wallonie * www.Wallonie-en-ligne.net/
>Internet Society Wallonie * www.Wallonie-ISOC.org/
>Tél. : +32(0)81.26.10.12. - Fax : +32(0)81.22.64.11.
>
>
>Radu Cotet
>CEO, ISOC Belgium - Wallonia
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