[Chapter-delegates] Pacific Islands Regional Advisor bannedfrom major World IT Meeting

[Jeffrey Sherman]

Perhaps I'm being cynical here, but at least here in the US, a good many
(if not most) politicians are most interested in fundraising.  You have
to get elected first and then you have to get reelected at the end of
your term.  In order to do that, you need money - big money.

In order to get that money, you need major sponsors - and typically, it
isn't the guy on the street like you and me; it is the large
organizations and big business.  You and I can't afford to donate
hundreds of thousands of dollars to political campaigns but big
companies like AOL/Time Warner, Sony Pictures, etc. all can - and do.

So who is a politician going to listen to - the guy on the street like
you and me or the big business that pays to get and keep them in office?

There are really two ways of getting a politician's ear: 1) being a
major (or potentially major) contributor, and 2) being an organization
that can influence the voting of a large number of voters.

ISOC isn't in either of those categories.

It isn't just a matter of ISOC chapters not educating the politicians;
it is that the politicians don't really care about being educated...
they just want to please their corporate donors so they can stay in
office.

Jeffrey Sherman
Warever Computing, Inc.
Los Angeles, CA

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[mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces at elists.isoc.org] On Behalf Of
Christian de Larrinaga
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 5:39 AM
To: Franck Martin
Cc: chapter-delegates at elists.isoc.org; Pacific Islands Chapter of ISOC
Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Pacific Islands Regional Advisor
bannedfrom major World IT Meeting

Frank

Forget the conspiracy theories. There is only one way to deal with  
this which is to work within each government and get them to  
represent the views of their local communities. If your local  
communities don't have a clear view then educate. How many of the  
government representatives at WSIS have been briefed and work with  
ISOC chapters?

Even if you do a great job the evidence is that Governments that have  
been heckled constantly by their local Internet communiteis like the  
US and UK are still producing legislation like CALEA, DRMCA, RIPA and  
the Canadians with their requirement on SIP providers to support  
Canadian emergency numbers.

All this says to me is that the message hasn't really been understood  
yet. They still see this as a threat to the old way of working and  
not as an opportunity to do things better.



Christian
Christian de Larrinaga


On 2 Nov 2005, at 06:04, Franck Martin wrote:

> Fred,
>
> My conspiracy theory is the following:
> Under ICANN, anybody can come, pick up the mic and tell the board they
> are not doing such a great job and should reform.
> In Washington and other places it works like this, the people that  
> want
> to pick up the mick, will get together and create a foundation or an
> association and starts to fund people to lobby elected members. These
> elected members will receive campaign support from the lobbists  
> because
> they are supporting the same cause and will ensure that things move in
> certain ways...
>
> Well in ICANN, IETF, IEEE, etc..., you don't need to support  
> anybody to
> make sure your issue is discussed in closed door meeting. You go  
> and do
> it yourself, much cheaper, more transparent etc...
>
> So Governments and their elected members do not want to kill the lobby
> system, they need closed door meetings.
>
> But this is only a conspiracy theory...
>
> The other conspiracy theory, is that ITU has run so many awareness
> meetings with governments, that governments are feeling confident  
> of the
> quality of the advises from ITU, so ITU does not want to have better
> advisers during cessions....
>
> But that's another conspiracy theory
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Fred Baker wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the heads-up. The fact is that this has been happening to
>> all of our non-governmental participants, including ISOC HQ. That
>> doesn't make it less of a problem, but it means that there are very
>> fundamental issues here.
>>
>> I like and support Mr Singh's comment in the closing paragraph.
>> Fundamentally, that's why ISOC is not convinced that a governmental
>> oversight function (US or otherwise) is a great idea. The model being
>> displayed in WSIS smells like Mercantilism, not openness.
>>
>> On Nov 1, 2005, at 9:11 PM, Franck Martin wrote:
>>
>>> PICISOC MEDIA RELEASE - FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>>>
>>> Pacific Islands Regional Advisor banned from major World IT Meeting
>>>
>>> At a preliminary meeting in Geneva preparing for the World Summit on
>>> the Information Society (WSIS) meeting next month, the Pacific
>>> Islands Regional Advisor on this major global initiative was last
>>> week excluded from observing proceedings.
>>>
>>> "Two incidents this week have dampened spirit of civil society and
>>> private sector representatives," the advisor, Ms 'Apisake Soakai,
>>> told members of the Pacific Islands Chapter of the Internet Society
>>> (PICISOC) in an e-mail from Geneva last Tuesday.
>>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>> "Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already
>> tomorrow in Australia." (Charles Schulz )
>
>
> -- 
> Franck Martin
> ICT Specialist
> franck at sopac.org
> SOPAC, Fiji
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