[Chapter-delegates] Pacific Islands Regional Advisor banned from major World IT Meeting
Christian de Larrinaga
cdel at firsthand.net
Wed Nov 2 05:39:11 PST 2005
Frank
Forget the conspiracy theories. There is only one way to deal with
this which is to work within each government and get them to
represent the views of their local communities. If your local
communities don't have a clear view then educate. How many of the
government representatives at WSIS have been briefed and work with
ISOC chapters?
Even if you do a great job the evidence is that Governments that have
been heckled constantly by their local Internet communiteis like the
US and UK are still producing legislation like CALEA, DRMCA, RIPA and
the Canadians with their requirement on SIP providers to support
Canadian emergency numbers.
All this says to me is that the message hasn't really been understood
yet. They still see this as a threat to the old way of working and
not as an opportunity to do things better.
Christian
Christian de Larrinaga
On 2 Nov 2005, at 06:04, Franck Martin wrote:
> Fred,
>
> My conspiracy theory is the following:
> Under ICANN, anybody can come, pick up the mic and tell the board they
> are not doing such a great job and should reform.
> In Washington and other places it works like this, the people that
> want
> to pick up the mick, will get together and create a foundation or an
> association and starts to fund people to lobby elected members. These
> elected members will receive campaign support from the lobbists
> because
> they are supporting the same cause and will ensure that things move in
> certain ways...
>
> Well in ICANN, IETF, IEEE, etc..., you don't need to support
> anybody to
> make sure your issue is discussed in closed door meeting. You go
> and do
> it yourself, much cheaper, more transparent etc...
>
> So Governments and their elected members do not want to kill the lobby
> system, they need closed door meetings.
>
> But this is only a conspiracy theory...
>
> The other conspiracy theory, is that ITU has run so many awareness
> meetings with governments, that governments are feeling confident
> of the
> quality of the advises from ITU, so ITU does not want to have better
> advisers during cessions....
>
> But that's another conspiracy theory
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Fred Baker wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the heads-up. The fact is that this has been happening to
>> all of our non-governmental participants, including ISOC HQ. That
>> doesn't make it less of a problem, but it means that there are very
>> fundamental issues here.
>>
>> I like and support Mr Singh's comment in the closing paragraph.
>> Fundamentally, that's why ISOC is not convinced that a governmental
>> oversight function (US or otherwise) is a great idea. The model being
>> displayed in WSIS smells like Mercantilism, not openness.
>>
>> On Nov 1, 2005, at 9:11 PM, Franck Martin wrote:
>>
>>> PICISOC MEDIA RELEASE - FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>>>
>>> Pacific Islands Regional Advisor banned from major World IT Meeting
>>>
>>> At a preliminary meeting in Geneva preparing for the World Summit on
>>> the Information Society (WSIS) meeting next month, the Pacific
>>> Islands Regional Advisor on this major global initiative was last
>>> week excluded from observing proceedings.
>>>
>>> "Two incidents this week have dampened spirit of civil society and
>>> private sector representatives," the advisor, Ms 'Apisake Soakai,
>>> told members of the Pacific Islands Chapter of the Internet Society
>>> (PICISOC) in an e-mail from Geneva last Tuesday.
>>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>> "Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already
>> tomorrow in Australia." (Charles Schulz )
>
>
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