[chapter-delegates] RE: RE2: Reminder: Tsunami Alert Network : (IM Client for tomorrow)

Tue Mar 29 04:33:08 PST 2005

Isn't Trillian (spelling?) a multi-IM client that might resolve some of the problem? Jabber is being touted by many so I would agree
it is a good place to start.

V

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andreu Vea' [mailto:andreu at veabaro.info]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 4:26 AM
> To: 'Franck Martin'; 'Baker Fred'
> Cc: lroberts at packet.cc; chapter-delegates at lists.isoc.org; 'Michael R Nelson'; jd at isoc-es.org;
> kahn at cnri.reston.va.us; 'Lynn St.Amour'; 'Vinton G. Cerf'
> Subject: RE2: Reminder: Tsunami Alert Network : (IM Client for tomorrow)
> 
> Dear Franck,
> 
> You-re very welcome to connect and use the IM client that you prefer.
> 
> But as I said to this list, I don-t want to start another (never-ending)
> discussion about the "best" IM client... And never less than 24h before we
> start our meeting. This only would bring confussion, to the people who is
> their first time with messenger.
> 
> Time and experience with groups bigger than 20 people chatting concurrently
> will tell us which is the most convenient.
> 
> Due Yahoo Messenger its free, multiplatform tested by millions of people who
> use it daily and it is multilanguage I picked this IM client for our monthly
> meetings. And this will be the one which will Host our meeting tomorrow.
> 
> Specially the video codecs (much more efficient) is what made me decide.
> 
> 
> I've tested Gaim, after your kind message, and I have seen that has nice
> features, (multi/protocol) that will allow you to connect (only text)
> tomorrow with us. But not using any video device. Not supported. And the
> attach/file feature must be still improved.
> 
> So as I said, use the IM client that best fit your needs (Gaim, Trillian,
> Miranda, Qnext, Integrity Messenger...)
> The idea is that all those who have webcam, can use it. Otherwise you can
> add your picture. So we can see "our faces" while talking.
> 
> "Conceptually" I totally agree with the spirit of your suggestion, I'm an
> open/source oriented. But for this kind of events where installation must be
> easy and nothing can't fail, I prefer (and I've tested more) Yahoo IM.
> 
> If you've an open source solution, with real-time video, multiplatform,
> multilingual and tested with more than 20 simultaneous users, please write
> me privately and we'll discuss about changing for future meetings.
> 
> But let's focus on the "Topic of the meeting" the Tsunami Alert Network and
> not in the bearer of our information.
> Franck, I look forward to see you in the meeting.
> 
> 		andreu
> 
> 
> 
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Franck Martin [mailto:franck at sopac.org]
> Enviado el: lunes, 28 de marzo de 2005 21:08
> Para: Baker Fred
> CC: andreu at veabaro.info; lroberts at packet.cc;
> chapter-delegates at lists.isoc.org; 'Michael R Nelson'; jd at isoc-es.org;
> kahn at cnri.reston.va.us; 'Lynn St.Amour'; 'Vinton G. Cerf'
> Asunto: Re: [chapter-delegates] Re: Reminder: Tsunami Alert Network : more
> necessary than ever
> 
> While Yahoo messenger is a good piece of propietary software, shouldn't we
> use something that follows an RFC?
> 
> Like jabber for instance to do all the online meetings.
> 
> This is what APNIC does, and I think ISOC should use protocols/open
> standards promoted by IETF.
> 
> gaim.sourceforge.net has a jabber client for Linux and Windows.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Baker Fred wrote:
> 
> > On Yahoo, I am FredBakerSBA
> >
> >
> > On Mar 28, 2005, at 5:35 PM, Andreu Vea' wrote:
> >
> >> After 3 months today (Monday 16:00h GMT) Indonesia trembled again
> >> with  a terrible 8.2 Richter earthquake.
> >>  Our long time ago scheduled meeting will be more opportunistic than
> >> ever.
> >>
> >> This note is to remind you that:
> >>
> >> After the great success of our last real-time meeting I look to see
> >> you tomorrow (Tuesday)  we'll discuss and learn about the "Tsunami
> >> Alert Network" with Fred Baker (co-author of the Draft)
> >>
> >> Looking forward to have our chapter delegate in Indonesia (Jakarta)
> >> Irwan Effendi online to give us a real
> >>
> >> MEETING DETAILS:
> >> -----------------------------------
> >> -8<------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> --
> >> -
> >>     Date: Tuesday, March the 29th
> >>     Time: 12h (noon) Pacific Time, 15h (Eastern US Time)  Spain 22h
> >> (GMT+1)
> >>     Topic: "Tsunami Alert Network"
> >>     Invited Guest Star this month  ;-)   ::   Fred Baker (Co-author
> >> of  the draft, and Cisco Fellow)
> >>     Status : Confirmed
> >>
> >> NOTE: Attention European countries changed the hour this week, US
> >> will  do it next Sunday.
> >>                 Follow the examples, if any doubt just drop me a note.
> >>
> >>
> >>   ---------
> >> -8<------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> --
> >> ---------------------------
> >>
> >> RECOMMENDED:
> >>
> >> If you didn't attend the "testing-tools meeting" two weeks ago,
> >> please  let me know your yahoo ID till 5 minutes before the meeting
> >> start  time, so I'll invite and add you to the conference room.
> >>
> >> To the rest of us,
> >>
> >> Add to your Yahoo Messenger http://messenger.yahoo.com private list
> >> the following IDs from other  Delegates  (Click here):
> >>
> >> [HTML]
> >> http://www.veabaro.info/stanford/wiwiw/isoc/2005-03-15-ISOC-DELEGATES
> >> -
> >> FIRST-MEETING.htm
> >>
> >> [PDF]
> >> http://www.veabaro.info/stanford/wiwiw/isoc/2005-03-15-ISOC-DELEGATES
> >> -
> >> FIRST-MEETING-2.pdf
> >>
> >>
> >> Save it in a proper place, (the content of this link will be removed
> >> in few days)
> >>
> >>         andreu
> >>
> >> NOTE: The solely purpose of these monthly meetings, is to know more
> >> between us (the ISOC-chapter-delegates micro-community) and our
> >> different realities in order to strength our relationships and be
> >> able  to inter-cooperate between chapters in the future.
> >>
> >> I copied Vint,  Bob, Larry and a few others in order to let them know
> >> that if they want to participate they will be more than welcomed. But
> >> knowing how dense are their calendars... don't need to excuse if they
> >> can't make it. Is Just FYI.
> >>
> >>
> >> Andreu Vea'  Ph.D.
> >> Internet Research Scholar
> >> Stanford University (Palo Alto, CA)
> >> andreu at veabaro.info  /  andreu at stanford.edu http://WiWiW.org (Who is
> >> Who in the Internet world) VP  ISOC-ES (Spain) and ISOC-CAT
> >> co-founder.
> >>
> >
> 
> --
> Franck Martin
> ICT Specialist
> franck at sopac.org
> SOPAC, Fiji
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