[chapter-delegates] REMINDER : Tuesday, March the 15th first Real-Time ISOC meeting (Chapter Delegates)
Irwan Effendi
hero_tsai at mainsyscon.net
Tue Mar 15 19:53:17 PST 2005
Dear Andreu,
Sorry for not attending,
I can "see" you, but for some reason can't open a message window to chat
with you.
But then again, we have had this same experience in Indonesia when we tried
to use Yahoo messenger to set up an online conference.
Will have to work harder on that html based meeting room now :) haven't
touched it for a week.
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:22:26 -0800, Andreu Vea' <andreu at veabaro.info>
wrote :
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>
>
> Dear colleagues,
>
> As announced during the last 3 weeks, tomorrow we'll host the first
REAL
> TIME meeting.
> Many people have already signed up to test the collaboration tools.
>
> We have a volunteer from Spain who will diggest the results of our
> conversations to send/post it as an executive summary.
> But don't miss the opportunity to assist and know other Chapter
> Delegates from around the world. In an informal environment.
> Fred Baker has already expressed his will to assist, but can't make it
> tomorrow. So the main topic will be to make an introduction of each of us,
> and test the tools, plus the topic that our "Moderator" (Gene Galvin)
> will introduce.
>
> Just answer me with a private email and let me know your Messenger ID.
> We'll accept petitions to enter the chat till 5 minutes before we start
the
> event.
>
> Real-Time Chat: MARCH 15th. (Tuesday)
> Time: 9 PM (GMT+1 dinner time in Spain) 12 (GMT-8 lunch time
in
> California)
> Tool: Yahoo Messenger
> (Win) http://messenger.yahoo.com
> <http://messenger.yahoo.com/>
> (Mac)
> http://messenger.yahoo.com/mac.php;_ylt=Av_n10wJmEaA3AdFpj4wyipwMMIF
>
> (Unix)
>
http://messenger.yahoo.com/unix.php;_ylt=AikEA2cX8P4JdvEDQt9ColBwMMIF
>
> andreu veà
> ISOC-es
>
>
> --------------------------------------------
> From: Andreu Vea' [mailto:andreu at veabaro.info]
> Sent: viernes, 04 de marzo de 2005 16:17
> To: 'chapter-delegates at lists.isoc.org'
>
> Dear all,
>
> As I proposed (minutes before the $75 storm appeared) I would like to TEST
> and strength our ability to take advantage of being a worldwide community.
> Most of the times we're arguing about the good and the bad things of our
way
> to organize ourselves. We absolutely waste our energies, patience, working
> and reading hours discussing with people to whom we don't know their
faces,
> neither their context or real needs.
>
> My GOALS are so simple:
>
> 1) To Meet each other and "see" our faces (if webcam available)
> 2) To know better very interesting people (VIP :-) around the
> world
> 3) To CREATE an excuse to strength the inter-chapter
relationship
> 4) To IMPROVE our relationship in an informal meeting as
> colleagues
> 5) To know and discover how can we share, help and learn to/from
> other brother chapters
>
> PROPOSITION
> Real-Time Chat: MARCH 15th. (Tuesday)
> Time: 9 PM (GMT+1 dinner time in Spain) 12 (lunch time in
> California)
> Tool: Yahoo Messenger
> (Win) http://messenger.yahoo.com
> (Mac)
> http://messenger.yahoo.com/mac.php;_ylt=Av_n10wJmEaA3AdFpj4wyipwMMIF
>
> (Unix)
> http://messenger.yahoo.com/unix.php;_ylt=AikEA2cX8P4JdvEDQt9ColBwMMIF
>
> Topic: Exposition and comments about the "Tsunami alert" Draft
sent
> by Fred Baker and Brian E. Carpenter
> "Structure of an International Emergency Alert System"
>
> Many of us didn't have the time to read it. Or want to know more.
It
> will be a good moment to learn more about it
>
> and discuss. Have a look here
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-baker-alert-system-00.txt
> <http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-baker-alert-system-00.txt.>
>
>
>
> As of Today:
>
> Gene Gaines ISOC-Washington (as Host and presenter/moderator)
> GMT-5
>
> David McAuley ISOC-HQ GMT-5
>
> Carlos Vera ISOC-Ecuador GMT-5
>
> Andreu Veà ISOC-ES, as coordinator (now in California GMT-8)
>
> Representative ISOC-ES Spain (GMT+1)
>
> and with the special participation of Irwan Effendi from one
of
> the affected countries Indonesia (GMT+7)
>
>
>
> PRACTICAL DETAILS:
>
> Estimated time of the software installation (3 minutes)
>
> Signing up takes a little bit more (5 min max) if you don't have a
previous
> Yahoo account. If you have
>
>
>
> NOTE: I don't have yahoo stocks :-) but this piece of great software is
> free, robust, secure and have the best video codec I have ever seen.
>
> Despite of that, You can join the chat with any other open-
source
> compatible chat client.
>
>
>
> If interested Feel free to contact me, before the 14th telling
> which is you Messenger ID, so I'll invite you to the conference room.
>
> Next regular Chats (every 15 of the month), will be easier to
> organize, I wait for "Main Topic Suggestions" of general interest.
>
>
>
> andreu
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
> De: David McAuley [mailto:mcauley at isoc.org]
> Enviado el: viernes, 04 de marzo de 2005 12:37
> Para: andreu at veabaro.info; chapter-delegates at lists.isoc.org
> Asunto: RE: [chapter-delegates] Real-Time Meeting with ISOC Real-Chapters
> leaders (+Ideas Forum - Blog)
>
>
>
> Andreu, Thank you for taking this and running with it (Your proposition in
> #3 below). I like it greatly as I said to you in a separate note and I
plan
> to attend on March 15th. Since there may be more than 5 people can I
assume
> we will be using the messenger.yahoo.com tool?
>
>
>
> Thanks and best regards
>
> David
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andreu Vea' [mailto:andreu at veabaro.info]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 1:21 AM
> To: 'David McAuley'; chapter-delegates at lists.isoc.org
> Subject: [chapter-delegates] Real-Time Meeting with ISOC Real-Chapters
> leaders (+Ideas Forum - Blog)
>
>
>
> I think the blog is a good idea, but as you point somebody should
volunteer
> to make an "executive" diggest.
>
> In fact we don't need a blog to discuss, due our list now is public and
> web-enabled to read and track.
>
>
>
> So let's focus the problems:
>
>
>
> 1) We need some "diggest" about the most important topics discussed
> within our chapter-delegates list.
>
> We (in www.ISOC-ES.net have a person who does that in Spanish
every
> month) so all our Board is aware of what's going on here.
>
> Maybe someone can translate the summaries, or just do the same in
> english.
>
>
>
> 2) I think the regular "Real-Time" informal meetings between members
> around the world of this list should be Preserved and encouraged as a
great
> idea.
>
> I'm leading an international research effort about Internet pioneers
> http:// <http://WiWiW.org> WiWiW.org (Who is Who in the internet World)
and
> as we haven't been
>
> funded by any institution we're using free tools to communicate
within
> the team:
>
>
>
> For Chatting Realtime: http://messenger.yahoo.com (Better
> video codecs than MSN, and more secure), allows many people same time.
>
> For IP telephony: http://www.skype.com (Up to 5 people
> multi-audioconference). Great voice quality and free.
>
> File/folder sharing: http://www.grouper.com Sharing
> documents and folders via ciphered P2P mechanism.
>
>
>
> NOTE: You'll say "are not open source" OK true. But are free and are
> the best approach for an easy and convenient instant-communication and
> collaboration.
>
> I don't pretend to open a debate of which are the "best"
> tools for our regular/scheduled meetings. I just say, after many trials
and
> intensive regular
>
> weekly use "we are using these ones".
>
>
>
> 3) PROPPOSITION:
>
> We have the tools, we have the people, we have the
knowledge
> and we all have the same goal....then
>
> Why don't we start?
>
> Date suggested: MARCH 15th.
>
> Time: 9 PM (GMT+1 dinner time in Spain) 12 (lunch time
in
> California)
>
> Topic: Exposition and comments about the "Tsunami alert"
> Draft sent by Fred Baker and Brian E. Carpenter
>
> Many of us didn't have the time to read it. Or
> want to know more. Maybe the authors or Gene Gaines can explain us more.
>
> Gene, following your offer would you like to be
> the host/moderator of the First meeting ?
>
>
>
> BCC: Gene, Fred and Brian
>
> ---------------------------------------------
>
> I'll commit to manage the logistics of getting started and
> previous tests (write me to andreu at stanford.edu to get my Yahoo,Skype &
> Grouper IDs)
>
>
>
> andreu
>
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
> De: David McAuley [mailto:mcauley at isoc.org]
> Enviado el: lunes, 28 de febrero de 2005 10:35
> Para: chapter-delegates at lists.isoc.org
> Asunto: [chapter-delegates] Ideas Forum - Blog
>
> Dear Chapter Delegates:
>
>
>
> We have seen, over the past six months, a great increase in communications
> on our list. This is wonderful. And as I mentioned recently, we are
> considering supplementing this with real-time discussions. I want to
thank
> you for the helpful comments and suggestions on how we might do that.
> However, we are upgrading our IT infrastructure at present and will not be
> able to undertake some of the suggestions right away.
>
>
>
> In trying to decide how best to start a real-time meeting to supplement
the
> list we have been considering another tool as well - I'm interested in
your
> thoughts.
>
>
>
> The list itself sees a fair number of ideas floated from time to time. It
is
> difficult to determine which should be seriously considered and which may
be
> better suited for a future 'wish list'. The idea of using a blog as a
next
> step for ideas floated on the list has come up. Here is how it might work.
>
>
>
> As ideas are floated on the list they can be discussed but in order to
take
> any such idea to the next level we need it to be filtered through a more
> formal process. Anyone involved in the discussion could volunteer to
> summarize the discussion, essentially filtering the idea into something we
> could consider acting upon. A blog could be used to ask questions
through a
> template or introductory screen, the purpose of which is to describe the
> idea as concretely as possible. Of course, the blog would be open to
> chapter delegates.
>
>
>
> The questions that could be asked include: what is the purpose of this
idea;
> how will it help ISOC, its chapters, or it members; describe it in some
> reasonable detail; estimate the requirements and cost of implementation;
> estimate the requirements and cost of technical support; who, other than
> staff, do you envision leading or participating in this effort.
>
>
>
> In turn, we would use the blog as a tracking mechanism. Every idea
> submitted would be given serious consideration and we would report its
> status and priority to the blog.
>
>
>
> This is our suggestion on how to manage all the ideas and suggestions that
> are floated on this list. What are your comments or questions about this
> suggestion?
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
> David McAuley
>
> Membership Director
>
> Internet Society
>
> 703-326-9880, ext 104
>
> 703-963-5887 (mobile)
>
> mcauley at isoc.org
>
>
>
>
>
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