[chapter-delegates] RE: [isoc-trustees] REMINDER : Tuesday,March the 15th first Real-Time ISOC meeting (Chapter Delegates)
Rosa Delgado
rosa at delgado.aero
Tue Mar 15 09:34:26 PST 2005
I regret but an important meeting in Geneva has been postponed to a
later hour so, I cannot join this call anymore
Hope you have an interesting meeting/Rosa
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From: isoc-trustees-bounces at elists.isoc.org
[mailto:isoc-trustees-bounces at elists.isoc.org] On Behalf Of Andreu Vea'
Sent: Tuesday, 15 March 2005 05:22
To: chapter-delegates at lists.isoc.org; isoc-trustees at isoc.org
Cc: andreu at veabaro.info; 'David McAuley'; 'Baker Fred'; jd at isoc-es.org;
st.amour at isoc.org; 'Vinton G. Cerf'; 'James M Galvin'
Subject: [isoc-trustees] REMINDER : Tuesday,March the 15th first
Real-Time ISOC meeting (Chapter Delegates)
Dear colleagues,
As announced during the last 3 weeks, tomorrow we'll host the first
REAL TIME meeting.
Many people have already signed up to test the collaboration tools.
We have a volunteer from Spain who will diggest the results of our
conversations to send/post it as an executive summary.
But don't miss the opportunity to assist and know other Chapter
Delegates from around the world. In an informal environment.
Fred Baker has already expressed his will to assist, but can't make
it tomorrow. So the main topic will be to make an introduction of each
of us,
and test the tools, plus the topic that our "Moderator" (Gene
Galvin) will introduce.
Just answer me with a private email and let me know your Messenger
ID. We'll accept petitions to enter the chat till 5 minutes before we
start the event.
Real-Time Chat: MARCH 15th. (Tuesday)
Time: 9 PM (GMT+1 dinner time in Spain) 12 (GMT-8 lunch time
in California)
Tool: Yahoo Messenger
(Win) http://messenger.yahoo.com
<http://messenger.yahoo.com/>
(Mac)
http://messenger.yahoo.com/mac.php;_ylt=Av_n10wJmEaA3AdFpj4wyipwMMIF
(Unix)
http://messenger.yahoo.com/unix.php;_ylt=AikEA2cX8P4JdvEDQt9ColBwMMIF
andreu veà
ISOC-es
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From: Andreu Vea' [mailto:andreu at veabaro.info]
Sent: viernes, 04 de marzo de 2005 16:17
To: 'chapter-delegates at lists.isoc.org'
Dear all,
As I proposed (minutes before the $75 storm appeared) I would like to
TEST and strength our ability to take advantage of being a worldwide
community.
Most of the times we're arguing about the good and the bad things of our
way to organize ourselves. We absolutely waste our energies, patience,
working and reading hours discussing with people to whom we don't know
their faces, neither their context or real needs.
My GOALS are so simple:
1) To Meet each other and "see" our faces (if webcam
available)
2) To know better very interesting people (VIP :-) around the
world
3) To CREATE an excuse to strength the inter-chapter
relationship
4) To IMPROVE our relationship in an informal meeting as
colleagues
5) To know and discover how can we share, help and learn
to/from other brother chapters
PROPOSITION
Real-Time Chat: MARCH 15th. (Tuesday)
Time: 9 PM (GMT+1 dinner time in Spain) 12 (lunch time in
California)
Tool: Yahoo Messenger
(Win) http://messenger.yahoo.com
(Mac)
http://messenger.yahoo.com/mac.php;_ylt=Av_n10wJmEaA3AdFpj4wyipwMMIF
(Unix)
http://messenger.yahoo.com/unix.php;_ylt=AikEA2cX8P4JdvEDQt9ColBwMMIF
Topic: Exposition and comments about the "Tsunami alert" Draft
sent by Fred Baker and Brian E. Carpenter
"Structure of an International Emergency Alert
System"
Many of us didn't have the time to read it. Or want to know more.
It will be a good moment to learn more about it
and discuss. Have a look here
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-baker-alert-system-00.txt
<http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-baker-alert-system-00.txt.>
As of Today:
Gene Gaines ISOC-Washington (as Host and
presenter/moderator) GMT-5
David McAuley ISOC-HQ GMT-5
Carlos Vera ISOC-Ecuador GMT-5
Andreu Veà ISOC-ES, as coordinator (now in California GMT-8)
Representative ISOC-ES Spain (GMT+1)
and with the special participation of Irwan Effendi from one
of the affected countries Indonesia (GMT+7)
PRACTICAL DETAILS:
Estimated time of the software installation (3 minutes)
Signing up takes a little bit more (5 min max) if you don't have a
previous Yahoo account. If you have
NOTE: I don't have yahoo stocks :-) but this piece of great software is
free, robust, secure and have the best video codec I have ever seen.
Despite of that, You can join the chat with any other
open-source compatible chat client.
If interested Feel free to contact me, before the 14th
telling which is you Messenger ID, so I'll invite you to the conference
room.
Next regular Chats (every 15 of the month), will be easier to
organize, I wait for "Main Topic Suggestions" of general interest.
andreu
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De: David McAuley [mailto:mcauley at isoc.org]
Enviado el: viernes, 04 de marzo de 2005 12:37
Para: andreu at veabaro.info; chapter-delegates at lists.isoc.org
Asunto: RE: [chapter-delegates] Real-Time Meeting with ISOC
Real-Chapters leaders (+Ideas Forum - Blog)
Andreu, Thank you for taking this and running with it (Your proposition
in #3 below). I like it greatly as I said to you in a separate note and
I plan to attend on March 15th. Since there may be more than 5 people
can I assume we will be using the messenger.yahoo.com tool?
Thanks and best regards
David
-----Original Message-----
From: Andreu Vea' [mailto:andreu at veabaro.info]
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 1:21 AM
To: 'David McAuley'; chapter-delegates at lists.isoc.org
Subject: [chapter-delegates] Real-Time Meeting with ISOC Real-Chapters
leaders (+Ideas Forum - Blog)
I think the blog is a good idea, but as you point somebody should
volunteer to make an "executive" diggest.
In fact we don't need a blog to discuss, due our list now is public and
web-enabled to read and track.
So let's focus the problems:
1) We need some "diggest" about the most important topics discussed
within our chapter-delegates list.
We (in www.ISOC-ES.net have a person who does that in Spanish
every month) so all our Board is aware of what's going on here.
Maybe someone can translate the summaries, or just do the same
in english.
2) I think the regular "Real-Time" informal meetings between members
around the world of this list should be Preserved and encouraged as a
great idea.
I'm leading an international research effort about Internet
pioneers http:// <http://WiWiW.org> WiWiW.org (Who is Who in the
internet World) and as we haven't been
funded by any institution we're using free tools to communicate
within the team:
For Chatting Realtime: http://messenger.yahoo.com (Better
video codecs than MSN, and more secure), allows many people same time.
For IP telephony: http://www.skype.com (Up to 5
people multi-audioconference). Great voice quality and free.
File/folder sharing: http://www.grouper.com Sharing
documents and folders via ciphered P2P mechanism.
NOTE: You'll say "are not open source" OK true. But are free and
are the best approach for an easy and convenient instant-communication
and collaboration.
I don't pretend to open a debate of which are the
"best" tools for our regular/scheduled meetings. I just say, after many
trials and intensive regular
weekly use "we are using these ones".
3) PROPPOSITION:
We have the tools, we have the people, we have the
knowledge and we all have the same goal....then
Why don't we start?
Date suggested: MARCH 15th.
Time: 9 PM (GMT+1 dinner time in Spain) 12 (lunch time
in California)
Topic: Exposition and comments about the "Tsunami alert"
Draft sent by Fred Baker and Brian E. Carpenter
Many of us didn't have the time to read it. Or
want to know more. Maybe the authors or Gene Gaines can explain us more.
Gene, following your offer would you like to
be the host/moderator of the First meeting ?
BCC: Gene, Fred and Brian
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I'll commit to manage the logistics of getting started
and previous tests (write me to andreu at stanford.edu to get my
Yahoo,Skype & Grouper IDs)
andreu
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De: David McAuley [mailto:mcauley at isoc.org]
Enviado el: lunes, 28 de febrero de 2005 10:35
Para: chapter-delegates at lists.isoc.org
Asunto: [chapter-delegates] Ideas Forum - Blog
Dear Chapter Delegates:
We have seen, over the past six months, a great increase in
communications on our list. This is wonderful. And as I mentioned
recently, we are considering supplementing this with real-time
discussions. I want to thank you for the helpful comments and
suggestions on how we might do that. However, we are upgrading our IT
infrastructure at present and will not be able to undertake some of the
suggestions right away.
In trying to decide how best to start a real-time meeting to supplement
the list we have been considering another tool as well - I'm interested
in your thoughts.
The list itself sees a fair number of ideas floated from time to time.
It is difficult to determine which should be seriously considered and
which may be better suited for a future 'wish list'. The idea of using
a blog as a next step for ideas floated on the list has come up. Here is
how it might work.
As ideas are floated on the list they can be discussed but in order to
take any such idea to the next level we need it to be filtered through a
more formal process. Anyone involved in the discussion could volunteer
to summarize the discussion, essentially filtering the idea into
something we could consider acting upon. A blog could be used to ask
questions through a template or introductory screen, the purpose of
which is to describe the idea as concretely as possible. Of course, the
blog would be open to chapter delegates.
The questions that could be asked include: what is the purpose of this
idea; how will it help ISOC, its chapters, or it members; describe it in
some reasonable detail; estimate the requirements and cost of
implementation; estimate the requirements and cost of technical support;
who, other than staff, do you envision leading or participating in this
effort.
In turn, we would use the blog as a tracking mechanism. Every idea
submitted would be given serious consideration and we would report its
status and priority to the blog.
This is our suggestion on how to manage all the ideas and suggestions
that are floated on this list. What are your comments or questions
about this suggestion?
Thank you,
David McAuley
Membership Director
Internet Society
703-326-9880, ext 104
703-963-5887 (mobile)
mcauley at isoc.org
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