[chapter-delegates] Re: Memebrship presentation

Philippe Le Roux leroux at vdl2.com
Fri Mar 11 14:07:37 PST 2005


I'm not sure we need to have two path to ISOC. I think membership to 
Chapters must be THE way to join ISOC and all the members will pass by 
Chapters and vote as it.


At 15:44 2005-03-11, Franck Martin wrote:
>All these issues about membership are brought because Individual members 
>need representation and vote to ISOC BoT which has been removed from them 
>when the free membership came into effect.
>
>The free membership must stay with the same right as a paid membership in 
>term of democracy and representation.
>
>I let people figure out how to add value to a paid membership. I had 
>suggested earlier to give people access to award programs (like 5% 
>discount on software/hardware or specialised magazines).
>
>How do we get the free membership to vote. We need to make sure there are 
>no "dogs" amongst us (even if some behave like them ;) )
>
>I would suggest that we have a waiting period of one year before a member 
>can vote. This would allow a cool of period, stopping mass registration 
>before any vote.
>
>In this one year period, we could identify the member by various means. 
>The first one could a web of trust through chapters. Chapters would have 
>to identify their members and ISOC the members which are not affiliated to 
>a chapter. One way to identify would be to have each member to fax an ID 
>card (passport, driver license,...) or to meet face to face with a chapter 
>delegate. We could run a couple of checks using the web and directory 
>services like www.whitepages.com in every country.
>
>I'm not sure the process above is fool proof, but we could think of a 
>simple scheme, and refine it as people find ways to cheat the system... 
>Also some people on this list more used to identification could find 
>better mechanisms. I think the identification method from Indonesia was 
>loking good...
>
>Cheers.
>
>Patrick Vande Walle wrote:
>
>>W. Majewski said the following on 11/03/2005 03:28:
>>
>>>Hi all,
>>>
>>>the current version of my presention in  different formats is available 
>>>here:
>>>
>>>http://isoc.org.pl/2005/membership/
>>Dear Jacek,
>>
>>Thanks for this hard work. I will keep you updated on the results of the 
>>discussion later today.
>>
>>One observation:
>>
>>ISOC currently has 21.177 individuals  members, whatever name we give to 
>>this category. Of this, only 57% are  also members of chapters.
>>With the current policy of indirectly electing BoT members through 
>>chapter delegates, the remaining 43% of members have no representation 
>>whatsoever, which is an issue.
>>
>>Becoming a non-paying member is as easy as filling an online form and the 
>>only thing ISOC can verify is that the e-mail address does not bounce 
>>back. As some put it, even my dog could be a member of ISOC, as long as 
>>it has an e-mail address.
>>
>>We need also to present ISOC and its chapters as ONE entity by collecting 
>>all fees at one place. But there should a possibility for members to not 
>>join a chapter, if only because there are  places where there are no 
>>chapters.  Collecting fees locally makes a lot of sense, since credit 
>>cards are not as common as some would think.
>>I also agree that a membership fee should provide some benefits, a return 
>>on investment if you like.  Since activities happen mostly on the local 
>>level, it makes sense they should be used locally.
>>
>>
>>patrick
>
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